I meant in the linked article....I tried to go again and nothing was mentioned on the topic of ear-pro. It was a 1-page article...maybe I'm unable to continue and go to page 2? Either way, I refuse to use my 5.56 rifle for HD, knowing that ear-pro is not a likely option. And I refuse to pay up front for a product for which I now have to wait a year to get...if and when it's approved, and I become first on the "list". Hell...posting here bumps me up on that list...Yes, in all cases of home defense which includes being outdoors defending the home.
I'll bet you don't do a lot of your hunting indoors.A 30-06 is louder than an AR and I don't wear ear pro when I hunt. Auditory occlusion is a thing.
I actually have mild tinnitus from years of standing in front of massive bass amps. I have also been indoors when a 5.56 was fired, multiple times. I also work daily in heavy equipment.I'll bet you don't do a lot of your hunting indoors.
And tinnitus is also a thing. So is permanent hearing damage.
My Dad wasn't a shooter, but he was a professional military and commercial pilot for decades before many people were paying very much attention to hearing damage. By the time he passed he was about 80 or 90 percent deaf. I don't want to go down that road. I want to keep on enjoying Tom Petty and Warren Zevon and Heart and many others my whole life.
My HD long gun is an M1 carbine. Yes that's an earsplitter out of a Ruger Blackhawk, but from a full-length M1 barrel it's much more bearable. It's not even close to 5.56 out of a 16" barrel.
That's like saying a 44mag is louder than a 357mag? Sometimes it's not about the decibels, but the tone included. I can handle the boom of a 44mag, but the crack of a 357mag tears me up. A 308win isn't bad, but a 5.56's crack is horrible. If you have any questions about that just @10mmLife!I kind of have them incorporated into my overall plan. I haven't done enough training with them to make it my primary, plus there are other platforms I think are better suited to HD, for me anyway. Bet ya can't guess what that is.
I don't worry that much about ear pro in HD weapons. A 30-06 is louder than an AR and I don't wear ear pro when I hunt. Auditory occlusion is a thing. The last thing I think anyone needs to be thinking about at 3 AM when they hear their front door shatter is putting a damn set of E muffs on.
Just my opinion and not intended to be advice for anyone other than me.
I know what 5.56 sounds like indoors.That's like saying a 44mag is louder than a 357mag? Sometimes it's not about the decibels, but the tone included. I can handle the boom of a 44mag, but the crack of a 357mag tears me up. A 308win isn't bad, but a 5.56's crack is horrible. If you have any questions about that just @10mmLife!
Just because you seen people shoot in videos doesn't mean the damage wasn't done. Have you seen follow up interviews with these same people discussing hearing loss?I've seen countless videos of thugs and police shootings where both used rifles and handguns without hearing protection in a shooting. I've watched live reality shows like The First 48 where criminals used rifles and AR/AK pistols with hearing protection. None seem to have gone deaf.
Perminate hearing loss and damage is usually cumulative and the result of long term exposure to loud nose over time.
In a life or death situation, I am not worried about ear pro or ear protection. I am worried about making it out alive. I plan on being successful and tipping the odds in my favor by prioritized having the most powerful and effective weapon possible over worrying about my hearing if and when my life is imminent jeopardy. That's just me personally and YMMV.
Garand Thumb does put out some entertaining videos but what makes him an HD expert?I would rather be deaf and alive. I will Not be outgunned by a criminal in my home.
You do you.
This guy has pretty informative videos.
I’m basing my decision on what I have learned from a retired LEO friend. A well respected firearms Trainer, instructor, armorer and firearms aficionado in my area.Garand Thumb does put out some entertaining videos but what makes him an HD expert?
Honestly if you watch Active Self Protection you'll get a more real world idea of what HD actually looks like as every video on that channel is real life footage of whatever violent encounter can happen. Being concerned over a type of sight in an HD environment is useless as you'll be most likely pointing and shooting at the threat anyway.
Even renowned world class shooter Jerry Michalak once stated self defense is not something he's an expert in as he trains for other reasons.
If you have the option why not preserve your life and hearing at the same time.
I’m basing my decision on what I have learned from a retired LEO friend. A well respected firearms Trainer, instructor, armorer and firearms aficionado in my area.
For my home a rifle is the best tool I could use.
If you’re preaching “safety” you’re preaching to the choir. I’m a retired “safety “ guy, I hear( pun intended) your point. However, when I’m faced with home invasion; hearing loss takes a back seat. Especially if it means defending my home with more “quiet” handgun.
This is EXACTLY why I've been getting so heavily into replica airguns in the last year. My CO2/BB Springfield 1911 Mil-Spec and M1 Carbine replicate my house guns exactly. I can practice my point-shooting in my basement anytime I want regardless of weather--and for just pennies!Being concerned over a type of sight in an HD environment is useless as you'll be most likely pointing and shooting at the threat anyway.