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Some thoughts on mass shooters

HayesGreener

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Since retiring from law enforcement in 2011, my son and I have had a firearms training and private investigations business, including bodyguard services. One of the services we offer is training for prevention, mitigation, and response to active shooter situations. We have researched every mass shooting/murder that we could find data on for the past 100 years. Along the way we have picked up a few things that are relevant to the conversation. Here is a brief summary of presentations I have been making over the past 10 years. I have retired from the bodyguard and PI business and turned it over to my son, and now I do some consulting. But the information here is still relevant.

Mass killings in the U.S. is not a new phenomenon. The worst recorded mass killing of school children in the U.S. occurred in Bath, Michigan, in 1927. 37 elementary school children and 7 adults were killed by a school board member who dynamited the school. 38 people were killed by a dynamite bombing on Wall Street in 1920. The Khmer Rouge killed 2 million in Cambodia. And of course everyone knows of Timothy McVeigh's murder of 168 people in Oklahoma City. Go back as far as you want to count mass murders. Vlad the Impaler, AKA: Count Dracula, killed many thousands by impaling them on pikes. Hitler killed 6 million. Mao killed at least 50 million, many starved to death. Humans' ability to murder one another is limitless throughout history, but most of those events in history were local news. 24/7 cable news and social media shoves every event in our faces now so we are far more aware.

But back to active shooters. The Columbine High School killings, which is often pointed to as the genesis for school shootings in recent memory, was not supposed to be a shooting. It was planned as a bombing but fortunately the bomb did not detonate, otherwise there may have been several hundred casualties. Their plan was to set off the bomb in the cafeteria at lunch time and then shoot the survivors as they evacuated. Columbine changed law enforcement protocol for active shooter response. Prior to Columbine, law enforcement would work first to contain and negotiate with the shooter. Protocol now calls for officers to go directly in to the shooter and neutralize him. It is why you have seen the proliferation of rifles in patrol cars in the past 30 years.

A good guy with a gun present inside might change the course of events and stop a shooting spree. There are examples like Jack Wilson in Texas who killed a church shooter at the start of his rampage with one shot to the head, or Stephen Willeford in Sutherland Springs who wounded a mass killer and stopped his shooting rampage. But you must also realize that when police respond to an active shooter they are looking for a guy with a gun with directions to take him out. Holding a gun when the police arrive on an active shooter scene is unwise.

If we look at mass shootings since Columbine, as well as other non-school shootings, in almost every single instance the perpetrator studied previous mass killing incidents as part of their preparations. If he wanted his own Wiki page, he had to top a previous body count. There is no common profile, however, in almost every single incident there were clues known to others around them that were either ignored or not understood, which is why "see something say something" is so important. They were nearly all narcissistic, inadequate personalities and saw themselves as victims. Almost every killer had significant mental health issues and should never have been able to possess a firearm by anyone's measure. In some instances they even announced their intentions but there was no response. Past behavior can predict future behavior, and there are known crazies out there who should keep us awake at night. We MUST find a way of at least getting that information into the NICS so they cannot legally buy a gun.

Almost every one of them did not expect to survive the incident. They are not afraid of being killed; their greatest fear is of being interfered with before they finish what they came to do. In fact most expect to be killed by police or to commit suicide when the police arrive. Measures that buy time until the police response can make the killer dead before he gets to you. Mass killers want a soft target-it's why they choose wide open venues that are "gun free" zones, with large numbers of helpless victims, and the least likelihood of being interfered with. And they want their victims to remain in place while they slaughter them. Unprotected schools, college campuses, stores and malls, and large festivals or concert gatherings are perfect targets for them.

First and foremost is the physical security of the venue. Obviously grocery stores won't have the same security posture as a school, but there are things that can be cone. Security from attacks should be built into facilities design, and retrofitted in older buildings. Single points of entry that are monitored, ballistic barriers, metal detectors, biometric access, zoned access control, hardened classroom "safe rooms" and monitored security cameras should be standard in all public schools. Security barriers should be layered so there is no single point of failure. With modern construction materials that are available, facilities do not need to look like the inside of a bank vault. We do it in airports every day, so why not schools.

Security protocols must be carefully developed and trained, and enforced to ensure they are being followed. The best security system in the world is of no use if it is not administered properly and it should be tested periodically to ensure security protocols are being followed.

Even with a great physical security system in place, the greatest threat is from the insider who has free access to the inner ring of security. Again "see something, say something" comes into play. Procedures must be in place to immediately deal with individuals who are threatening, and at a minimum exclude them from the inner security circle. The people who know these killers know something is not right in almost every case. School administrators, mental health professionals, law enforcement, and families can find ways to work together to identify and counter threats. Once you put them under the microscope, the threat becomes apparent. Administrators and employers are almost afraid to exclude disruptive, threatening individuals from schools on legal grounds. That needs to stop. Don't tolerate them, and get them out. Juvenile criminal cases need to be treated like criminals; mentally ill cases need to be treated like they are mentally ill, not because of their status, but because of their behavior.

Armed personnel inside the venue are an essential "final layer" of security. The idea that an armed individual alone will secure the facility is naive. The grocery store shootings in Buffalo illustrates the point. He may or may not be in the right place at the right time to make a difference, or may become a casualty. The armed individual should be seen as the last line of defense when all the other layers of security have failed.

We are often asked whether teachers/employees should be allowed to go armed on campuses. That is a local decision, however if you choose that option the people who are armed in the facility with responsibility for protecting others must have adequate training and expertise in firearms. Having a concealed firearms license may be a feel good measure and may be better than a sharp stick, but does not ensure competence with a firearm. Those who carry in school should have a special duty to be expert with their firearm and have a rigorous training regimen, and must be sure of their abilities. I am talking about the level of skill it takes to make a head shot consistently at 10 yards and 100% hits center mass at 25 yards.

If you look at attempted assassinations in the U.S. since the 1960's, there is rarely an opportunity or time for the security detail to use their firearms, but firearms must always be an option.

If the worst happens and all the other security measures to prevent an attack have failed, the critical incident response must be effective. As someone once said, you may not be able to control whether the storm happened, but you can control your own response to it. The first and most crucial step in critical incident response is to understand and correctly articulate the threat. An accurate description of the incident determines the speed and quality of the response. Exercising response plans and good instant communications are crucial to a good outcome. It is essential that exercises be conducted in coordination with local law enforcement and EMS first responders.

We cannot protect against every eventuality, there are too many variables. But we can control the controllables, through awareness, and physical and training measures, to improve our chances of a good outcome.
 
This new domestic terrorism bill if you want to call it that (not sure if passed or proposed) is aimed at mass shootings and will effect lawful owner rights! Whether it's 1 or 100 tragedies come with 1! If looking for the good of the people, then do something about baby formula, lower fuel prices and getting this country back on track with lower unemployment! I'll stop there as not to shut down this thread!
 
Ive been around a while & Ive never seen it like this in America.I don't think it's an exaggeration to say crime,in all sorts is out of control.Just in Chicago alone since Jan 1st 206 shot & killed.874 shot & wounded.1080 shot.227 homicides.554 car jackings.someone is shot every 3:04 hours.Murdered every14:35 hours.Since Jan1st there have been 4 mass shootings of between 4 & 7 people. I don't live in Chicago (anymore) , but last week I was sitting in my car waiting for my wife.2 men came running out of a clothing store with bundles of clothes in their arms.They ran off and no one followed.I believe Chicago and some other towns are beyond help.Unless of course martial law is declared.The streets (all of them) belong to the criminals
 
Ive been around a while & Ive never seen it like this in America.I don't think it's an exaggeration to say crime,in all sorts is out of control.Just in Chicago alone since Jan 1st 206 shot & killed.874 shot & wounded.1080 shot.227 homicides.554 car jackings.someone is shot every 3:04 hours.Murdered every14:35 hours.Since Jan1st there have been 4 mass shootings of between 4 & 7 people. I don't live in Chicago (anymore) , but last week I was sitting in my car waiting for my wife.2 men came running out of a clothing store with bundles of clothes in their arms.They ran off and no one followed.I believe Chicago and some other towns are beyond help.Unless of course martial law is declared.The streets (all of them) belong to the criminals
I think we are coming close to a tipping point where people have had enough and strong measures are applied by elected officials with some sense. The pendulum will swing back the other way and the crooks will look back at these as the good old days.
 
Since retiring from law enforcement in 2011, my son and I have had a firearms training and private investigations business, including bodyguard services. One of the services we offer is training for prevention, mitigation, and response to active shooter situations. We have researched every mass shooting/murder that we could find data on for the past 100 years. Along the way we have picked up a few things that are relevant to the conversation. Here is a brief summary of presentations I have been making over the past 10 years. I have retired from the bodyguard and PI business and turned it over to my son, and now I do some consulting. But the information here is still relevant.

Mass killings in the U.S. is not a new phenomenon. The worst recorded mass killing of school children in the U.S. occurred in Bath, Michigan, in 1927. 37 elementary school children and 7 adults were killed by a school board member who dynamited the school. 38 people were killed by a dynamite bombing on Wall Street in 1920. The Khmer Rouge killed 2 million in Cambodia. And of course everyone knows of Timothy McVeigh's murder of 168 people in Oklahoma City. Go back as far as you want to count mass murders. Vlad the Impaler, AKA: Count Dracula, killed many thousands by impaling them on pikes. Hitler killed 6 million. Mao killed at least 50 million, many starved to death. Humans' ability to murder one another is limitless throughout history, but most of those events in history were local news. 24/7 cable news and social media shoves every event in our faces now so we are far more aware.

But back to active shooters. The Columbine High School killings, which is often pointed to as the genesis for school shootings in recent memory, was not supposed to be a shooting. It was planned as a bombing but fortunately the bomb did not detonate, otherwise there may have been several hundred casualties. Their plan was to set off the bomb in the cafeteria at lunch time and then shoot the survivors as they evacuated. Columbine changed law enforcement protocol for active shooter response. Prior to Columbine, law enforcement would work first to contain and negotiate with the shooter. Protocol now calls for officers to go directly in to the shooter and neutralize him. It is why you have seen the proliferation of rifles in patrol cars in the past 30 years.

A good guy with a gun present inside might change the course of events and stop a shooting spree. There are examples like Jack Wilson in Texas who killed a church shooter at the start of his rampage with one shot to the head, or Stephen Willeford in Sutherland Springs who wounded a mass killer and stopped his shooting rampage. But you must also realize that when police respond to an active shooter they are looking for a guy with a gun with directions to take him out. Holding a gun when the police arrive on an active shooter scene is unwise.

If we look at mass shootings since Columbine, as well as other non-school shootings, in almost every single instance the perpetrator studied previous mass killing incidents as part of their preparations. If he wanted his own Wiki page, he had to top a previous body count. There is no common profile, however, in almost every single incident there were clues known to others around them that were either ignored or not understood, which is why "see something say something" is so important. They were nearly all narcissistic, inadequate personalities and saw themselves as victims. Almost every killer had significant mental health issues and should never have been able to possess a firearm by anyone's measure. In some instances they even announced their intentions but there was no response. Past behavior can predict future behavior, and there are known crazies out there who should keep us awake at night. We MUST find a way of at least getting that information into the NICS so they cannot legally buy a gun.

Almost every one of them did not expect to survive the incident. They are not afraid of being killed; their greatest fear is of being interfered with before they finish what they came to do. In fact most expect to be killed by police or to commit suicide when the police arrive. Measures that buy time until the police response can make the killer dead before he gets to you. Mass killers want a soft target-it's why they choose wide open venues that are "gun free" zones, with large numbers of helpless victims, and the least likelihood of being interfered with. And they want their victims to remain in place while they slaughter them. Unprotected schools, college campuses, stores and malls, and large festivals or concert gatherings are perfect targets for them.

First and foremost is the physical security of the venue. Obviously grocery stores won't have the same security posture as a school, but there are things that can be cone. Security from attacks should be built into facilities design, and retrofitted in older buildings. Single points of entry that are monitored, ballistic barriers, metal detectors, biometric access, zoned access control, hardened classroom "safe rooms" and monitored security cameras should be standard in all public schools. Security barriers should be layered so there is no single point of failure. With modern construction materials that are available, facilities do not need to look like the inside of a bank vault. We do it in airports every day, so why not schools.

Security protocols must be carefully developed and trained, and enforced to ensure they are being followed. The best security system in the world is of no use if it is not administered properly and it should be tested periodically to ensure security protocols are being followed.

Even with a great physical security system in place, the greatest threat is from the insider who has free access to the inner ring of security. Again "see something, say something" comes into play. Procedures must be in place to immediately deal with individuals who are threatening, and at a minimum exclude them from the inner security circle. The people who know these killers know something is not right in almost every case. School administrators, mental health professionals, law enforcement, and families can find ways to work together to identify and counter threats. Once you put them under the microscope, the threat becomes apparent. Administrators and employers are almost afraid to exclude disruptive, threatening individuals from schools on legal grounds. That needs to stop. Don't tolerate them, and get them out. Juvenile criminal cases need to be treated like criminals; mentally ill cases need to be treated like they are mentally ill, not because of their status, but because of their behavior.

Armed personnel inside the venue are an essential "final layer" of security. The idea that an armed individual alone will secure the facility is naive. The grocery store shootings in Buffalo illustrates the point. He may or may not be in the right place at the right time to make a difference, or may become a casualty. The armed individual should be seen as the last line of defense when all the other layers of security have failed.

We are often asked whether teachers/employees should be allowed to go armed on campuses. That is a local decision, however if you choose that option the people who are armed in the facility with responsibility for protecting others must have adequate training and expertise in firearms. Having a concealed firearms license may be a feel good measure and may be better than a sharp stick, but does not ensure competence with a firearm. Those who carry in school should have a special duty to be expert with their firearm and have a rigorous training regimen, and must be sure of their abilities. I am talking about the level of skill it takes to make a head shot consistently at 10 yards and 100% hits center mass at 25 yards.

If you look at attempted assassinations in the U.S. since the 1960's, there is rarely an opportunity or time for the security detail to use their firearms, but firearms must always be an option.

If the worst happens and all the other security measures to prevent an attack have failed, the critical incident response must be effective. As someone once said, you may not be able to control whether the storm happened, but you can control your own response to it. The first and most crucial step in critical incident response is to understand and correctly articulate the threat. An accurate description of the incident determines the speed and quality of the response. Exercising response plans and good instant communications are crucial to a good outcome. It is essential that exercises be conducted in coordination with local law enforcement and EMS first responders.

We cannot protect against every eventuality, there are too many variables. But we can control the controllables, through awareness, and physical and training measures, to improve our chances of a good outcome.
Very well thought out and right on point.
 
After Trump won the 2016 election.I know that the left had not planned on that and they vowed it would never happen again.I knew they would spend the next 4 years preparing for 2020. In the 60s then president Johnson claimed he would have the black population voting democrat for 200 years.So this has been in the works for many years.The country,including the republican party let this happen.everyone thought the country was bullet proof.Now that they have control ,the next 7 months may decide the fate of our country.To what extent would the left go to retain power ? Can we get it back ? you tell me.
 
Since retiring from law enforcement in 2011, my son and I have had a firearms training and private investigations business, including bodyguard services. One of the services we offer is training for prevention, mitigation, and response to active shooter situations. We have researched every mass shooting/murder that we could find data on for the past 100 years. Along the way we have picked up a few things that are relevant to the conversation. Here is a brief summary of presentations I have been making over the past 10 years. I have retired from the bodyguard and PI business and turned it over to my son, and now I do some consulting. But the information here is still relevant.

Mass killings in the U.S. is not a new phenomenon. The worst recorded mass killing of school children in the U.S. occurred in Bath, Michigan, in 1927. 37 elementary school children and 7 adults were killed by a school board member who dynamited the school. 38 people were killed by a dynamite bombing on Wall Street in 1920. The Khmer Rouge killed 2 million in Cambodia. And of course everyone knows of Timothy McVeigh's murder of 168 people in Oklahoma City. Go back as far as you want to count mass murders. Vlad the Impaler, AKA: Count Dracula, killed many thousands by impaling them on pikes. Hitler killed 6 million. Mao killed at least 50 million, many starved to death. Humans' ability to murder one another is limitless throughout history, but most of those events in history were local news. 24/7 cable news and social media shoves every event in our faces now so we are far more aware.

But back to active shooters. The Columbine High School killings, which is often pointed to as the genesis for school shootings in recent memory, was not supposed to be a shooting. It was planned as a bombing but fortunately the bomb did not detonate, otherwise there may have been several hundred casualties. Their plan was to set off the bomb in the cafeteria at lunch time and then shoot the survivors as they evacuated. Columbine changed law enforcement protocol for active shooter response. Prior to Columbine, law enforcement would work first to contain and negotiate with the shooter. Protocol now calls for officers to go directly in to the shooter and neutralize him. It is why you have seen the proliferation of rifles in patrol cars in the past 30 years.

A good guy with a gun present inside might change the course of events and stop a shooting spree. There are examples like Jack Wilson in Texas who killed a church shooter at the start of his rampage with one shot to the head, or Stephen Willeford in Sutherland Springs who wounded a mass killer and stopped his shooting rampage. But you must also realize that when police respond to an active shooter they are looking for a guy with a gun with directions to take him out. Holding a gun when the police arrive on an active shooter scene is unwise.

If we look at mass shootings since Columbine, as well as other non-school shootings, in almost every single instance the perpetrator studied previous mass killing incidents as part of their preparations. If he wanted his own Wiki page, he had to top a previous body count. There is no common profile, however, in almost every single incident there were clues known to others around them that were either ignored or not understood, which is why "see something say something" is so important. They were nearly all narcissistic, inadequate personalities and saw themselves as victims. Almost every killer had significant mental health issues and should never have been able to possess a firearm by anyone's measure. In some instances they even announced their intentions but there was no response. Past behavior can predict future behavior, and there are known crazies out there who should keep us awake at night. We MUST find a way of at least getting that information into the NICS so they cannot legally buy a gun.

Almost every one of them did not expect to survive the incident. They are not afraid of being killed; their greatest fear is of being interfered with before they finish what they came to do. In fact most expect to be killed by police or to commit suicide when the police arrive. Measures that buy time until the police response can make the killer dead before he gets to you. Mass killers want a soft target-it's why they choose wide open venues that are "gun free" zones, with large numbers of helpless victims, and the least likelihood of being interfered with. And they want their victims to remain in place while they slaughter them. Unprotected schools, college campuses, stores and malls, and large festivals or concert gatherings are perfect targets for them.

First and foremost is the physical security of the venue. Obviously grocery stores won't have the same security posture as a school, but there are things that can be cone. Security from attacks should be built into facilities design, and retrofitted in older buildings. Single points of entry that are monitored, ballistic barriers, metal detectors, biometric access, zoned access control, hardened classroom "safe rooms" and monitored security cameras should be standard in all public schools. Security barriers should be layered so there is no single point of failure. With modern construction materials that are available, facilities do not need to look like the inside of a bank vault. We do it in airports every day, so why not schools.

Security protocols must be carefully developed and trained, and enforced to ensure they are being followed. The best security system in the world is of no use if it is not administered properly and it should be tested periodically to ensure security protocols are being followed.

Even with a great physical security system in place, the greatest threat is from the insider who has free access to the inner ring of security. Again "see something, say something" comes into play. Procedures must be in place to immediately deal with individuals who are threatening, and at a minimum exclude them from the inner security circle. The people who know these killers know something is not right in almost every case. School administrators, mental health professionals, law enforcement, and families can find ways to work together to identify and counter threats. Once you put them under the microscope, the threat becomes apparent. Administrators and employers are almost afraid to exclude disruptive, threatening individuals from schools on legal grounds. That needs to stop. Don't tolerate them, and get them out. Juvenile criminal cases need to be treated like criminals; mentally ill cases need to be treated like they are mentally ill, not because of their status, but because of their behavior.

Armed personnel inside the venue are an essential "final layer" of security. The idea that an armed individual alone will secure the facility is naive. The grocery store shootings in Buffalo illustrates the point. He may or may not be in the right place at the right time to make a difference, or may become a casualty. The armed individual should be seen as the last line of defense when all the other layers of security have failed.

We are often asked whether teachers/employees should be allowed to go armed on campuses. That is a local decision, however if you choose that option the people who are armed in the facility with responsibility for protecting others must have adequate training and expertise in firearms. Having a concealed firearms license may be a feel good measure and may be better than a sharp stick, but does not ensure competence with a firearm. Those who carry in school should have a special duty to be expert with their firearm and have a rigorous training regimen, and must be sure of their abilities. I am talking about the level of skill it takes to make a head shot consistently at 10 yards and 100% hits center mass at 25 yards.

If you look at attempted assassinations in the U.S. since the 1960's, there is rarely an opportunity or time for the security detail to use their firearms, but firearms must always be an option.

If the worst happens and all the other security measures to prevent an attack have failed, the critical incident response must be effective. As someone once said, you may not be able to control whether the storm happened, but you can control your own response to it. The first and most crucial step in critical incident response is to understand and correctly articulate the threat. An accurate description of the incident determines the speed and quality of the response. Exercising response plans and good instant communications are crucial to a good outcome. It is essential that exercises be conducted in coordination with local law enforcement and EMS first responders.

We cannot protect against every eventuality, there are too many variables. But we can control the controllables, through awareness, and physical and training measures, to improve our chances of a good outcome.
Here we go again
 
Good thing they have gun free/safe zones all over ... Safest place to be. sarcasm!
Yes it's a terrible tragedy. I'm not making fun of it, it's a fact that most mass shooters pick soft targets.
I find it intriguing that the media has and constantly makes these sick people infamous. Ever since Columbine it seems the mass shooters are in a race to win the most bodies, for Christ sakes it is NOT a video game.
 
To many times you hear about these school shootings and how the shooter just walks right in, following the Sandy Hook shooting in Connecticut all Connecticut schools were mandated to lock all entry doors at the start of the school day. The Sandy H. Elementary school was torn down and rebuilt with the main entrance requires entry through two sets of locked doors separated by a vestibule and bullet proof windows, no one gets in while school is in session unless expected.

Gone are the days of the mindset that things like this “won’t happen here”
 
. . . . for Christ sakes it is NOT a video game.
My heart goes out to all the innocents whose lives are brutally and violently taken away from them by murderers and assassins, and also to the families and friends who are affected by such terrible losses.

With regard to the recent mass shootings, you have to wonder the extent to which easy access to gratuitous violence in entertainment and social media for these perps desensitizes them even more, and also exacerbates their underlying psychotic/sociopathic and maybe even narcissistic tendencies.

So easy these days to be encouraged not to have a moral compass and not to be self-regulating or self-checking. So sad and pathetic, and very much less than human, at least as I know it.
 
Surely we can emphasize the need to lock school doors. Most of these facilities have the push bar on the inside that unlocks the door, so just lock the darn things. It would be helpful to have cameras at entries and a person to monitor them. The monitor could have a phone with responders on speed dial. Maybe a button nearby to activate a siren or a recorded message/warning like "Warning-warning! Police are on the way! Leave now! (and repeat)"
I would prefer to see some rational prevention steps than the "never allowing a crisis to go to waste" scramble by the usual pundits and idiot politicians.
How much money have we spent for Ukraine to defend their borders? What if we diverted 1% of this to harden our schools?
 
Surely we can emphasize the need to lock school doors. Most of these facilities have the push bar on the inside that unlocks the door, so just lock the darn things. It would be helpful to have cameras at entries and a person to monitor them. The monitor could have a phone with responders on speed dial. Maybe a button nearby to activate a siren or a recorded message/warning like "Warning-warning! Police are on the way! Leave now! (and repeat)"
I would prefer to see some rational prevention steps than the "never allowing a crisis to go to waste" scramble by the usual pundits and idiot politicians.
How much money have we spent for Ukraine to defend their borders? What if we diverted 1% of this to harden our schools?
Agree completely but why just 1%???
We have sent enough money to other countries over the past few decades that should have been used to rebuild our infrastructure and supporting our veterans and yes building stronger school building’s for our children. Of course this says nothing about mental illness.
I understand this thread is in the “Lounge” so going political is not allowed however we ALL know when what side of the isle is in power is when things get done.
The 2A is important and I’m not advocating for changes to it but (something) needs to be done to work towards stopping this senseless slaughter of our children.
Enough is enough is enough.
 
Agree completely but why just 1%???
We have sent enough money to other countries over the past few decades that should have been used to rebuild our infrastructure and supporting our veterans and yes building stronger school building’s for our children. Of course this says nothing about mental illness.
I understand this thread is in the “Lounge” so going political is not allowed however we ALL know when what side of the isle is in power is when things get done.
The 2A is important and I’m not advocating for changes to it but (something) needs to be done to work towards stopping this senseless slaughter of our children.
Enough is enough is enough.
Gotta start with this question. Who is doing the shooting ? In this case it was an 18 year old kid who was bullied at the high school.
 
It is terrible what happened to these families and my prayers go to heal these families.
It is really sad that all the politicians use this to blow their own horn, especially mayor beetlejuice who has no clue on how to clean-up her own backyard before she should worry about someone else's neighborhood.
 
Gotta start with this question. Who is doing the shooting ? In this case it was an 18 year old kid who was bullied at the high school.
Mental illness is always a factor and facts emerging indicate there were all kinds of warnings flashing around this guy
That being said since it’s a mental illness situation, the same with the Sandy H. Shooter then basically nothing will be done as the government has closed that door with HIPPA Regulations.
The path of least resistance
“so to speak” is the tool used not the user.
The recent Buffalo NY shooting was also done by someone with mental health issues in fact an interview with a local law enforcement official he stated that the shooter had been diagnosed with enough issues that he shouldn’t have been allowed to buy a gun but that information “fell through the cracks”
That interview was never shown again on the news. Go figure.
 
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