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Republicans Change Text of HPA and SHORT Act to Satisfy an Unelected Bureaucrat

Certified Silly Goose said:
I don't believe that. We've had a lot of rising stars in the Republican party lately. Byron Donalds, Nancy Mace, Eli Crane, Ana Luna, MTG, etc. We just have to keep that momentum going.

For however long we keep thinking we can't change it, we won't. And if we dont try, we definitely won't.

This fatalist line of thinking is what keeps us down and holds us back. The minute ANYTHING goes wrong we fall back on it and give up.

Look at the big beautiful bill... It's not everything we wanted, but there are wins in it, aren't there? Instead of focusing on that and getting fired up to keep the momentum going, people just give up and pout about what didn't turn out the way they wanted.

I don't know why people thought Trp winning would solve everything. Like I said before, this is the BEGINNING of the war. Not the end.
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I think you're an idealist. I don't operate in hopes and dreams. I am a realist. None of those people who cited will be anything more than what they are now, and even if they are, they won't behave any differently than those before them.

The BBB is nothing but bloatware. It raises spending and the deficit. It consist of a lot of backdoor pocket greasing and lobbyist appeasing deals. We take 5 steps backwards and one step forward. The way you're mind works, you think we should be happy about and celebrating the fact that we took a step forward. The way my mind works is to focus on the net losses and the fact that we are digressing instead of progressing.
 
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WellArmed said:
I think you're an idealist. I don't operate in hopes and dreams. I am a realist. None of those people who cited will be anything more than what they are now, and even if they are, they won't behave any differently than those before them.

The BBB is nothing but bloatware. It raises spending and the deficit. It consist of a lot of backdoor pocket greasing and lobbyist appeasing deals. We take 5 steps backwards and one step forward. The way you're mind works, you think we should be happy about and celebrating the fact that we took a step forward. The way my mind works is to focus on the net losses and the fact that we are digressing instead of progressing.
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I remember someone saying the same thing to me back in 22 when talk of Trump running again started to gear up. NOBODY believed he could run, let alone win again. Who's laughing now?

You're welcome to believe whatever you want, but if you go back to my original comment, I merely stated that I didn't like it when people said they weren't going to vote in the midterms as a "punishment" for the bill. That is childish, irresponsible, and puts them in same category as the left to me.

If you don't like your reps, change them. No, it's not easy. But it's possible. If that makes me an idealist, so be it.
 
Certified Silly Goose said:
I remember someone saying the same thing to me back in 22 when talk of Trump running again started to gear up. NOBODY believed he could run, let alone win again. Who's laughing now?
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And he won and ended up being antigun, anti-Constitution, spend, spend, spend, and not much better. His primary focus is tax breaks, deregulation, and to help rich and big business. That's what he primarily focused and really the only legislation he passed in his first 2 years as President when he had the short window of Republicans controlling all chambers of Congress, and that's what he's doing yet again. In the end, absolutely nothing has changed in this country. The state of the country and politics is as it always has been. The pendulum will swing back to Democrats, as it usually does, and they will push there agenda. Nothing ever changes and nothing will change. Your hopes and dreams won't change human nature, corruption, greed, and reality.

Since this is a firearm related board and back on topic, we have seen little changes on a federal level despite who we vote for. Trump was supposed to be our 2A savory, but we see how that worked out. They all promise the world with regards to firearms before they are elected, and people like you believe them. Then once they get the position, they do absolutely nothing other than grandstand. Reagan, Bush Sr , Bush Jr., and now Trump. All of them were antigun despite what they said.
 
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WellArmed said:
And he won and ended up being antigun, anti-Constitution, spend, spend, spend, and not much better. His primary focus is tax breaks to help rich and big business. That's what he primarily focused and really the only legislation he passed in his first 2 years as President when he had the short window of Republicans controlling all chambers of Congress, and that's what he's doing yet again. In the end, absolutely nothing has changed in this country. The state of the country and politics is as it always has been. The pendulum will swing back to Democrats, as it usually does, and they will push there agenda. Nothing ever changes and nothing will change.
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How do you figure he's "Anti-Gun" and "Anti-Constitution"??? And I disagree about the pendulum swinging back. I think Vance is going to take it in 28. Calling it right now. Bookmark this comment.
 
WellArmed said:
Nothing ever changes and nothing will change.
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Alright, I'm gonna just stop replying now. I'm getting nowhere. You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe. You're not going to convince me, and clearly I'm not going to convince you. Best of luck, I hope you find peace and clarity somehow. You do you, I'm gonna keep fighting. Take care, have a great day.
 
Certified Silly Goose said:
Alright, I'm gonna just stop replying now. I'm getting nowhere. You believe what you believe, I believe what I believe. You're not going to convince me, and clearly I'm not going to convince you. Best of luck, I hope you find peace and clarity somehow. You do you, I'm gonna keep fighting. Take care, have a great day.
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Yes, keep fighting and voting brother. A change gonna come. Either way, you and I are on the same side.
 
Certified Silly Goose said:
How do you figure he's "Anti-Gun" and "Anti-Constitution"???
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You're right. Trump's extremely pro gun. Nothing anti gun, due process, or Constitution about what he says or does.

Certified Silly Goose said:
And I disagree about the pendulum swinging back. I think Vance is going to take it in 28. Calling it right now. Bookmark this comment.
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I disagree about Vance, but that's not what I was referring to. The country will eventually swing back to the left politically. Democrats will eventually have Congress and the Presidency. It's how it is, always has been, and will continue to be.

People want change aka a better life. They vote for one party expecting to get it, but they get more of the same. In response, the country shifts and votes for the opposite party. Rise and repeat. Obama was elected because of backlash from Bush Jr. and Republicans. Trump was elected because of backlash from Obama and Democrats. Then the country gave Democrats the presidency and Congress. Then we flipped back to Republicans having control. It's a broken record with regards to Congress and the Presidency.

No one wins except rich, big business, and these career politicians. The poor, middle class, small mom and pop businesses, and especially gun owners lose no matter what party wins.

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Certified Silly Goose said:
I don't believe that. We've had a lot of rising stars in the Republican party lately. Byron Donalds, Nancy Mace, Eli Crane, Ana Luna, MTG, etc. We just have to keep that momentum going.

For however long we keep thinking we can't change it, we won't. And if we dont try, we definitely won't.

This fatalist line of thinking is what keeps us down and holds us back. The minute ANYTHING goes wrong we fall back on it and give up.

Look at the big beautiful bill... It's not everything we wanted, but there are wins in it, aren't there? Instead of focusing on that and getting fired up to keep the momentum going, people just give up and pout about what didn't turn out the way they wanted.

I don't know why people thought Trp winning would solve everything. Like I said before, this is the BEGINNING of the war. Not the end.
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i like your positive attitude but i am a cynic. been burned far too many times by believing a politician, which is why i don't believe any of them. left, right, middle. they all suck. living in nj will do that to a guy.
 
Annihilator said:
Looks like things may have changed now, have to wait and see

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Republicans Change Text of HPA and SHORT Act to Satisfy an Unelected Bureaucrat

Republicans introduced new text to the reconciliation bill, trying to satisfy the Senate Parliamentarian’s view on the Byrd Rule.
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NFA Provisions Pulled From Senate Bill, Latest Version Restores Some

The latest version of the Senate tax bill, coinciding with the House One Big Beautiful Bill Act, j ust dropped on Politico, and it contains some big news for the NFA world.After a brief setback that pulled all NFA changes from the bill, the new version now aligns more closely with the version...
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No no just no! This is so frustrating to me as someone who reads this dang thing. That is the way the bill that was introduced was ALWAYS written (as I’ve said a few times). It’s crazy how both sides are manipulating. The provision removing from the NFA was always just in the statutory draft but made in in the bill as a reduction on the tax. Democrats are claiming victory getting something that was never there removed, and republicans are feigning outrage at the removal of something that was never there!!

I hate politics 😂

I am happy my next cans will cost only the sticker not some dumb tax that never should have existed in the first place.

The text as it has Always been. By the way section 70 in HR1 is judiciary not tax.
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Belt Fed said:
we'll be lucky if the 200 tax is eliminated.
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I dunno, I’m cautiously optimistic. Removing a tax definitely falls under a budget reconciliation as a revenue stream reduction. Whether removing from NFA completely is a matter of policy or budget (since that would remove a tax but also can see how policy), i don’t’ know, but the removal of a tax certainly should be, and with just simple majority can be passed. Which 🤞 we will get
 
If they remove the tax, i have about 5 other pistols to SBR. got two waiting on approval now. i bet the wait times will be a lot longer. i remember waiting six months for my first machine gun papers to get back approved. but everything was paper then. was no internet.
 
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