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An Oklahoma man who was doing target practice with a recently purchased handgun in his backyard on Christmas Day is accused of shooting and killing a woman seated on a front porch blocks away as she held a child in her arms, authorities said.
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Law enforcement officers canvassed the surrounding neighborhood and found one home less than a mile away – where Adams lived – that lacked a suitable backstop for shooting, according to the affidavit. Investigators learned neighbors “had heard Adams shooting during the afternoon about 20 rounds,” the document said.

When deputies went to the home, Adams told them he had been firing a Glock .45‑caliber handgun he “bought for himself for Christmas,” shooting at a “Red Bull can laying on the ground” in his backyard, the affidavit said.
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The Night Rider said:
We need more details because it sounds like he was in a subdivision.
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They don't give an exact address or street area, if he was in the town area which is clearly heavy residential then wtf. But could have easily been out in the outskirts there that looks like a lot of open land. Also in the article they made comments about him probably having a new gun as if this was a regular thing, which makes me think they're in the outskirts because what state allows shooting when you are in a clear residential area.

The only indication of distance seems to state that they were about a mile apart, and that's with the assumption that they don't have other neighbors between them at that distance.

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KBlessing said:
They don't give an exact address or street area, if he was in the town area which is clearly heavy residential then wtf. But could have easily been out in the outskirts there that looks like a lot of open land. Also in the article they made comments about him probably having a new gun as if this was a regular thing, which makes me think they're in the outskirts because what state allows shooting when you are in a clear residential area.

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Isn't Comanche in Oklahoma? I guarantee you the reporter is it going to write the story in such a way as to put the gun on her in the worst possible light.

I have to wonder though if the bullet traveled really any distance at all you have to assume that there weren't many houses around him.
 
The Night Rider said:
Isn't Comanche in Oklahoma? I guarantee you the reporter is it going to write the story in such a way as to put the gun on her in the worst possible light.

I have to wonder though if the bullet traveled really any distance at all you have to assume that there weren't many houses around him.
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Yes, says Oklahoma right in the headline/url. And I did mention that with the mile distance between them, it doesn't sound like there were any neighbors between them. Having a backstop is still responsible as bullets can travel a bit (especially if he's at an elevated position).

Not sure how not having a backstop or preparing for what's behind your target would be 'worst possible light'. Did you read the article?
 
If there is a paywall here's the whole article.

An Oklahoma man who was doing target practice with a recently purchased handgun in his backyard on Christmas Day is accused of shooting and killing a woman seated on a front porch blocks away as she held a child in her arms, authorities said.

The woman, identified as Sandra Phelps, was sitting with family members under a covered front porch at a home in Comanche, about 90 miles southwest of Oklahoma City, on Thursday afternoon when she was struck in her right arm by what appeared to be a single bullet, an affidavit said. Phelps was holding a child in her left arm while seated on a love seat.

The family members told investigators they heard five to seven shots “over several minutes” coming from somewhere north of the home, the affidavit said. Phelps remarked that someone nearby must have gotten “a new gun for Christmas,” according to the filing. Shortly after, she said “‘ouch’ and collapsed.” No additional gunshots were heard.

Cody Wayne Adams, 33, was arrested Thursday evening on suspicion of first‑degree manslaughter in connection with the shooting, according to court records. He was later released on a $100,000 bond, records show.

A preliminary hearing is scheduled for February 25. CNN has reached out to Adams’ lawyer for comment.

First responders were dispatched to the home around 3:15 p.m., the Stephens County Sheriff’s Office said. Phelps was pronounced dead at the scene soon after, according to the affidavit. Investigators said the bullet, after striking Phelps’ arm, travelled into her chest cavity. No bullet strikes were found on the house, the filing shows.

Law enforcement officers canvassed the surrounding neighborhood and found one home less than a mile away – where Adams lived – that lacked a suitable backstop for shooting, according to the affidavit. Investigators learned neighbors “had heard Adams shooting during the afternoon about 20 rounds,” the document said.

When deputies went to the home, Adams told them he had been firing a Glock .45‑caliber handgun he “bought for himself for Christmas,” shooting at a “Red Bull can laying on the ground” in his backyard, the affidavit said.

Investigators found “several spent bullet casings on the ground and on the deck” in Adams’ backyard, along with a Red Bull can south of the house. From the point where Adams said he was shooting toward the can, red and blue lights of emergency vehicles at the home where Phelps was shot “were visibly in line with the shooting angle,” the affidavit said.

When told that his shooting might have caused the woman’s death, Adams became “became visibly upset and began to cry,” according to the affidavit. A deputy told him that “there was nothing behind his property to stop any bullets from traveling beyond his property and hurting someone.”

After being advised of his rights during a later interview at the sheriff’s office, Adams allegedly acknowledged firing multiple rounds southward from his residence, the filing said, using two loaded magazines containing roughly eight and then 10 rounds of Winchester .45 caliber ammunition.

The charging document alleges that Adams caused the woman’s death by using a firearm in a way that “that created a situation of unreasonable risk and probability of death, or great bodily harm, to another person and demonstrated a conscious disregard for the safety of others.”
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The link to the Sheriff office is to their facebook page with their statement, which places the scene at "County Road 1800 in Meridian Area"

Full Press Release will be delivered at a later date.
On 12/25/2025 at approximately 1516 hours Deputies, Survival Flight EMS and Meridian Fire Department were dispatched to an address on County Road 1800 in the Meridian Area for an individual that had a gunshot wound.
The first Deputy arrived on scene and asked for assistance from Duncan Police Department and the Oklahoma Highway Patrol.
Later Investigators arrived on scene and requested the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation to assist us in Crime Scene collection and canvasing the area.
We later received a call stating an individual had just received a gun for Christmas and was target practicing in his backyard and that they believed it would be pointing in the direction of the scene.
Investigators went to the reported address and spoke with an individual that confirmed he was shooting a target in his backyard and that he had heard that someone has died from a gunshot wound a couple of roads over.
At approximately 1925 hours an arrest was made for first degree manslaughter.
We appreciate all the assistance from Meridian Volunteer Fire Department, Survival Flight EMS, Oklahoma Highway Patrol, City of Duncan OK- Police Department and the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation - Authorized Page
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3L120 said:
OK…what we have to go on is a Glock .45 was fired at the ground and the bullet ricocheted a mile and killed a lady on her porch. Seems a far distance for a bullet which would have lost significant energy after colliding with the ground.
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Assuming every round hit the ground.

I guess I'm a little confused, are we opposed to the idea of having a safer setup to be shooting at which includes some sort of backstop? Or are we just trying view this story as propaganda somehow doubting that it happened? What's the goal here?
 
KBlessing said:
Assuming every round hit the ground.
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Do you think the guy missed the ground?

ETA apparently he was shooting at an unspecified Target in his backyard.

KBlessing said:
I guess I'm a little confused, are we opposed to the idea of having a safer setup to be shooting at which includes some sort of backstop?
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We are not.

KBlessing said:
Or are we just trying view this story as propaganda somehow doubting that it happened?
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The story IS Propaganda. Propaganda does not always equal a false statement.

I'm quite certain the story happened. I'm also quite certain that the reporter put the worst possible spin on the gun owner that they could.

KBlessing said:
What's the goal here?
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To find out what actually
happened and then try to analyze it.

If the guy actually walked out his back door in a residential neighborhood and started popping rounds off into the ground he's an idiot and he deserves whatever they throw at him.
 
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Hi,

Oh my. A stupid, tragic incident. This really saddens me, for the family, for Christmas, for the sheer idiocy of the shooter.

@KBlessing said:
Or are we just trying view this story as propaganda somehow doubting that it happened?
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CNN, being CNN, is all about gun control and usually spins stories in the most anti-gun and anti-2A ways possible. But in this case, there is no good spin. Seems like it's just some good ol' boy red neck out in the back yard having a little fun. I wonder if alcohol was involved. Has he or the neighbors discharged their firearms in their back yards before? Is it common in that area for folks to shoot off their back porch?

It's just sad, senseless, and shameful. You'd think people would know better. I'm sure this will affect gun legislation in the area.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Hi,

KBlessing said:
CNN isn't the only outlet that reported on it...

Not sure how reporting on an event that did happen, didn't seem to have a spin to it, is somehow massively anti gun.
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Oh, I'm sure. But CNN has a reputation that really rubs a lot of people the wrong way. I've found them quite biased and left-leaning in their reporting style. Although lately CNN seems to be trying to be more neutral and leaving out the descriptive adjectives that fill you in on their liberal agenda.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
KBlessing said:
Assuming every round hit the ground.

I guess I'm a little confused, are we opposed to the idea of having a safer setup to be shooting at which includes some sort of backstop? Or are we just trying view this story as propaganda somehow doubting that it happened? What's the goal here?
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For an.45 bullet to go a mile, it would have been fired at a 30 degree angle above the horizon. Maybe an accidental as he raised the pistol? My only experience was working South L.A. and tucking our B&W under an overpass 10 minutes before midnight on New Years Eve.
 
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