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Dire situation in Virginia

Onewolf426 said:
Thing is the majority of conservative voters did NOT get out and vote. Your failure to vote is a vote for this. No sympathy from me. I get tired of seeing this time and time again. Idiots, and yes I said IDIOTS, only go out and vote in the major elections, but not in the midterms when it counts the most,or refuse to vote because they don't like the candidate. They come up with every worn out excuse as to why they couldn't vote, then complain about how things turned out when their side lost. There is absolutely no excuse. Period. You get what you vote for, and you get what get when you don't go out and vote. And that goes for the ones who refuse to early vote, then on election day cannot make it to vote for whatever reason. Enough is enough. They have nobody to blame but themselves. It sounds like they are closet liberals. Want to blame everyone and everything for their failure other than themselves. I am tired of hearing the whining. If you didn't vote, you brought this on yourself. If you didn't get others out to vote, you brought this on yourself.
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The thing is, conservative fundraising is really doom and gloom. NAGR is the worst of them all. OMGWTFBBQ, Trump and Bondi BETRAYED US!!! The end is night, they’re going to ban all guns!!! (Hey, look at what Reagan said, and 80% ally isn’t a 20% enemy, but an 80% ally)
 
Everyone, please tame the tone and please refrain from insulting each other or slipping into non 2A politics. The forum currently allows " 2A politics lite" only and no other politics are allowed, anyone being too abrasive may find their comments deleted, and direct insults to each other may result in penalties such as account suspension.

Lets all play nice in the sandbox together!
 
GPS said:
The thing is, conservative fundraising is really doom and gloom. NAGR is the worst of them all. OMGWTFBBQ, Trump and Bondi BETRAYED US!!! The end is night, they’re going to ban all guns!!! (Hey, look at what Reagan said, and 80% ally isn’t a 20% enemy, but an 80% ally)
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Fundraising has nothing to do with it. In this day and age with the internet and the multiple sources to get info on the candidates, it plays very little in the overall vote. That is the excuse the RNC gives when they lose and want MORE money. It is a pizz poor excuse. The facts are there. Voter participation in the election among conservatives was lower than the National Election. That has nothing to do with "fundraising" and everything to do with voter apathy. Like I stated before. Numbers don't lie. Not trying to be an ***, just laying out the logical reason for this. Logic, critical thinking, the truth and commonsense are neither racist, mean, accusatory or mean spirited. They are what they are and have no emotional attachment to anything other than reality.
 
Onewolf426 said:
Fundraising has nothing to do with it. In this day and age with the internet and the multiple sources to get info on the candidates, it plays very little in the overall vote. That is the excuse the RNC gives when they lose and want MORE money. It is a pizz poor excuse. The facts are there. Voter participation in the election among conservatives was lower than the National Election. That has nothing to do with "fundraising" and everything to do with voter apathy. Like I stated before. Numbers don't lie. Not trying to be an ***, just laying out the logical reason for this. Logic, critical thinking, the truth and commonsense are neither racist, mean, accusatory or mean spirited. They are what they are and have no emotional attachment to anything other than reality.
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My point was that they constantly demoralize and it doesn’t help the situation, it just beleaguers their voters.
 
GPS said:
My point was that they constantly demoralize and it doesn’t help the situation, it just beleaguers their voters.
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I agree, and that is part of the complaint that they have no excuse for . Both parties are guilty of psyops. Both use the funding, one for excuses and one to demoralize. People allow themselves to be demoralized. Again, their fault. You go out and you vote regardless. There is no excuse, other than physical injury/sickness, accidents, weather to not vote. And it is also the reason to do early voting. I was once one of those who didn't vote early. I changed because times changed. People need to get over themselves.
 
Interesting note from a Radio Host today.
I think sometimes folks dont realize across the country that gun rights are restricted in states. Maybe we should point out to charlamagne the 2a handcuffs in IL, cA, NY, RI and other states:

His quote:

Charlamagne objected to Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s rhetoric about the shooting, particularly how she spoke about Pretti’s possession of a firearm at a protest.
"You ask, ‘Why did he bring a gun to a protest?’ Why do people bring guns to Starbucks?" Charlamagne asked. "Now all of a sudden it's wrong to carry any and everywhere, even though we live in a country that lets you carry damn near any and everywhere. Well, that's what happens when you are under an authoritarian government. Okay? They are hellbent on distorting our reality.
 
Some gun media types are defending the actions of the deceased based on 1st & 2nd Amendment rights, but I hope some, including official(s), will state it isn't smart for anyone to confront & mixed-it-up with the group of LEOs (interfere with a law enforcement action) that were/are apprehending any criminal(s), anywhere.

My .02
 
Patel, seemed to think carrying to a public event or protest was against the law, we all know it's not, at least in public. My commission from Jefferson Parish SD expired long ago, but while now I carry, sometimes I don't, like at the VA clinic, they get real touchy about weapons in there. I don't carry mowing my yard or in the shower either.
 
Domar1291 said:
And i just sent off my request to obtain my vet pass for free access to national parks
I was going to do skyline dr
I cant dont do commie states
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none of us can "do commie states"

however, we are outnumbered by a rather wide margin.

and NO, we cannot all just get up and move away.....

too many variables, expenses, age, and other considerations prevent that from happening.

so even though YOU DID NOT say to get up and move away, its rather sickening to hear others tell us to do so.

those words of "get up and move away"............are so very easy to say from the ignorant facts, of those that say it. .
 
Ozarker said:
Patel, seemed to think carrying to a public event or protest was against the law, we all know it's not, at least in public. My commission from Jefferson Parish SD expired long ago, but while now I carry, sometimes I don't, like at the VA clinic, they get real touchy about weapons in there. I don't carry mowing my yard or in the shower either.
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Deciding to go down and be a part of a larger movement, gathering, rally, protest - whatever one wants to call it - just in and of itself seems ludicrous to me at my stage in life. Add with a firearm? You’re just asking for problems. I just don’t like large crowds….it’s impossible to keep situational awareness in such circumstances.

There are better ways for one to exercise the 1A and 2A rights these days. Or at least safer ways, IMO.

I carry about 90% of the time. Since I work basically in the courthouse, can’t ever carry there. Errands? Not in the post office or bank or doctors office. Walmart and Tractor Supply, sure.
At home? It’s within reach at all times. Same goes for yard work. Never in the shower.

We have to make choices every day. Life is all about compromise.
 
I just saw on one of my friend's facebook posts that he is moving. He escaped NJ about 10 years ago to live in Virginia. Now he is looking for property in Alabama. He is not crazy about the thought of having to pick up and move again, but he can't stand to see what is happening there. Luckily, he has the ability to escape, financially and health wise. He put a lot into his retirement home in Virginia, thinking it would be his retirement paradise since escaping NJ. Now he has to start over with building his dream home all over again. He figures Alabama should be safe for the rest of his life. He is 68 and has a lot of life left in him.
 
Alabama is a great place to live, though Huntsville needs fewer entitled and liberal government workers… Excuse me “workers”
OldGrunt said:
I just saw on one of my friend's facebook posts that he is moving. He escaped NJ about 10 years ago to live in Virginia. Now he is looking for property in Alabama. He is not crazy about the thought of having to pick up and move again, but he can't stand to see what is happening there. Luckily, he has the ability to escape, financially and health wise. He put a lot into his retirement home in Virginia, thinking it would be his retirement paradise since escaping NJ. Now he has to start over with building his dream home all over again. He figures Alabama should be safe for the rest of his life. He is 68 and has a lot of life left in him.
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I agree most of these are egregiously unconstitutional, but I tend to agree that "A person convicted of battery in a “dating relationship” loses the right to possess a firearm for 3 years" is not awful. Men, if you beat up your girlfriends, you've got issues and don't need to be in possession of a firearm.

Sorry about that.
 
Talyn said:
Some gun media types are defending the actions of the deceased based on 1st & 2nd Amendment rights, but I hope some, including official(s), will state it isn't smart for anyone to confront & mixed-it-up with the group of LEOs (interfere with a law enforcement action) that were/are apprehending any criminal(s), anywhere.

My .02
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I've always heard (and I think it's darn good advice): don't carry a gun somewhere you wouldn't go without one. While I mourn the loss of any human life, when you start to tussle with law enforcement and you're carrying a firearm, the chance of something really bad happening goes up exponentially.
 
Talyn said:
Some gun media types are defending the actions of the deceased based on 1st & 2nd Amendment rights, but I hope some, including official(s), will state it isn't smart for anyone to confront & mixed-it-up with the group of LEOs (interfere with a law enforcement action) that were/are apprehending any criminal(s), anywhere.

My .02
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I think they need to be confronted with that. Throw their own rhetoric right back in their face. Make them try to justify their change in position when it comes to one of their own. Anytime there is a shooting or mass shooting, the first thing they start screaming about is more gun control...................until it involves one of their own.
 
Ozarker said:
Patel, seemed to think carrying to a public event or protest was against the law, we all know it's not, at least in public. My commission from Jefferson Parish SD expired long ago, but while now I carry, sometimes I don't, like at the VA clinic, they get real touchy about weapons in there. I don't carry mowing my yard or in the shower either.
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Only time I carry in the shower is when I need to clean my gun. Two birds, one stone.
 
Onewolf426 said:
I think they need to be confronted with that. Throw their own rhetoric right back in their face. Make them try to justify their change in position when it comes to one of their own. Anytime there is a shooting or mass shooting, the first thing they start screaming about is more gun control...................until it involves one of their own.
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I unsubscribed to them.

It was a low-hanging fruit site with crap articles anyhow.
 
KillerFord1977 said:
Interesting note from a Radio Host today.
I think sometimes folks dont realize across the country that gun rights are restricted in states. Maybe we should point out to charlamagne the 2a handcuffs in IL, cA, NY, RI and other states:

His quote:

Charlamagne objected to Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s rhetoric about the shooting, particularly how she spoke about Pretti’s possession of a firearm at a protest.
"You ask, ‘Why did he bring a gun to a protest?’ Why do people bring guns to Starbucks?" Charlamagne asked. "Now all of a sudden it's wrong to carry any and everywhere, even though we live in a country that lets you carry damn near any and everywhere. Well, that's what happens when you are under an authoritarian government. Okay? They are hellbent on distorting our reality.
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I think Charlamagne should recognize the fundamental difference between simply carrying a concealed weapon to a protest, and carrying a concealed weapon to a protest where you plan and anticipate causing an altercation.
 
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