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I currently own a Springfield 9mm which I really like, but feel I need to start a nice selection of useful guns. I'm not sure if I should get another handgun or rifle or shotgun. I have a multiple purpose for weapon ownership--1) home protection; 2) sporting enjoyment, and; 3) pissing off our commie governor here in Virginia. I need advice on the first two which will suffice in fulfilling #3. Recommendations ladies and gentlemen? Thanks! Joe
 
jboltersdorf said:
I currently own a Springfield 9mm which I really like, but feel I need to start a nice selection of useful guns. I'm not sure if I should get another handgun or rifle or shotgun. I have a multiple purpose for weapon ownership--1) home protection; 2) sporting enjoyment, and; 3) pissing off our commie governor here in Virginia. I need advice on the first two which will suffice in fulfilling #3. Recommendations ladies and gentlemen? Thanks! Joe
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i personally like handguns, both semi-automatic, and revolvers.

i have only been in this sport/hobby since january of 2020.

rifles to me fill a need for sport shooting as well, an if i can see my way to it, I want a Henry, (they are all lever action) maybe no more than up to a .38 caliber....i just love the old "cowboy style" of rifles.

as for shotguns, they too serve a need, so many say in home defense.

however, i own a house built in 1860, and as a result, a shotgun will travel thru many walls, and do MUCH damage here, so as a result...

i have NO NEED for a shotgun.

so, what you really may want to do is, try to rent a gun or 2 or 35 before YOU decide what YOU want.
 
Old_Me said:
i personally like handguns, both semi-automatic, and revolvers.

i have only been in this sport/hobby since january of 2020.

rifles to me fill a need for sport shooting as well, an if i can see my way to it, I want a Henry, (they are all lever action) maybe no more than up to a .38 caliber....i just love the old "cowboy style" of rifles.

as for shotguns, they too serve a need, so many say in home defense.

however, i own a house built in 1860, and as a result, a shotgun will travel thru many walls, and do MUCH damage here, so as a result...

i have NO NEED for a shotgun.

so, what you really may want to do is, try to rent a gun or 2 or 35 before YOU decide what YOU want.
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If your house has lath and plaster walls they are really tough. 9mm and .380 HP will barely make it through both sides of an old interior wall (let's just say a member of our household has unintentionally/empirically proven that fact). I would think that FMJ won't be exactly screaming once it's done the same.

I don't have personal experience with shot, but methinks it would lose energy more quickly in old walls.
 
Blackmesa96 said:
If your house has lath and plaster walls they are really tough. 9mm and .380 HP will barely make it through both sides of an old interior wall (let's just say a member of our household has unintentionally/empirically proven that fact). I would think that FMJ won't be exactly screaming once it's done the same.

I don't have personal experience with shot, but methinks it would lose energy more quickly in old walls.
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yeah, plaster, horse hair, laths, wiring.......

still i don't think i want one, in fact, my state's "new" gun law that went into effect July 1st....

no semi-automatic shot guns.

and over/under or side by side, limits capacity

pump action may be difficult for this old man.
 
Im not sure what your new laws permit concerning semi auto rifles. I do recall hearing there were some restrictions on ARs; but Im not sure if that also limited mag capacity.

So assuming you are mag limited, Id look at shotguns. Im a Remington 870 fan. You can easily swop barrels from 30" for bird hunting to 18" for people issues. The 870 is a pump and should run you about $500ish. IF your budget can go higher (and Virginia allows for semis) Id look at the Beretta 1301 or its slightly cheaper brother then A300 PATROL (but be sure to get the PATROL model). They will run you $1600ish for the 1301 and $1100 for the A300. A 3rd choice might be the Mossberg 930 or 940. They are good guns too but I think not in the same class as the Berettas and will still be in the just sub $100 range.

Im also a fan of the pistol based PDWs think FLUX or Strike industries or even Recover 20-20; but again that will depend on your state mag limits to make it useable

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Old_Me said:
i personally like handguns, both semi-automatic, and revolvers.

i have only been in this sport/hobby since january of 2020.

rifles to me fill a need for sport shooting as well, an if i can see my way to it, I want a Henry, (they are all lever action) maybe no more than up to a .38 caliber....i just love the old "cowboy style" of rifles.

as for shotguns, they too serve a need, so many say in home defense.

however, i own a house built in 1860, and as a result, a shotgun will travel thru many walls, and do MUCH damage here, so as a result...

i have NO NEED for a shotgun.

so, what you really may want to do is, try to rent a gun or 2 or 35 before YOU decide what YOU want.
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I’d say a house built in 1860 would be Far more capable of stopping shotgun projectiles than ANY house built in the last 75 years. Walls then were real wood/ masonry, not drywall😏. Frankly, for home defense nothing beats a 12 gauge. You’ll not be shooting at long range and a 12 bore carries far more beans than medium and small bore rifles (like 5.56).
 
jboltersdorf said:
😂 I can afford what best fits my needs, so price isn't a showstopper. Since I'm a 30-year veteran I always look for military discount to help offset cost a bit too. I'm looking for what's the most logical choice which may or may not have a lot of bells and whistles.
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Retired Bum said:
I can proudly say logic has seldom entered my mind when purchasing a firearm! 🤣
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I have proven i have no logic as buying 3 1911/2011's and I don't like them! It took 40 years before i could hit the paper with 1 (no firearm was injured :whistle:).

My preferences are m/p's,! Not because of price, but because they work just fine. That's comparing my $700 to my $2,500 oa defense).
 
jboltersdorf said:
😂 I can afford what best fits my needs, so price isn't a showstopper. Since I'm a 30-year veteran I always look for military discount to help offset cost a bit too. I'm looking for what's the most logical choice which may or may not have a lot of bells and whistles.
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If you choose another handgun I would recommend getting something optics ready, regardless if you plan to run a dot, or not. Will help with value down the line.

May ruffle some feathers, but in the $1000 and under neighborhood look at Canik. The Rival (especially the steel framed one) and TTI Combat offer a lot of gun for the money. Superior triggers, lots of extras are found across the brand.

The Echelon also is a solid value. Trigger is very good and Springfield had been running some promotions on them.

Pump shotguns abound, should you be unwilling for the SCOTUS rulings this term. Without making this political, it appears that the state bans will be stuck down. Mossberg and Remington both are solid choices.
 
300 blackout SBR with a can. that'll cover all your bases. i'll leave make and model to the fine folks here who know a lot more than me.
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Hi Joe,

jboltersdorf said:
I currently own a Springfield 9mm which I really like, but feel I need to start a nice selection of useful guns. I'm not sure if I should get another handgun or rifle or shotgun. I have a multiple purpose for weapon ownership--1) home protection; 2) sporting enjoyment, and; 3) pissing off our commie governor here in Virginia. I need advice on the first two which will suffice in fulfilling #3. Recommendations ladies and gentlemen? Thanks! Joe
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Welcome to the forum from the Wild Wild Upper Midwest. Thanks for joining us. Which Springfield 9mm do you have? It's good to have a plan when putting together an armory.

I've been debating my next purchse as well. I've been building what I call a "one of each" collection. It's not "one of everything", just a sample of different platforms, calibers, barrel lengths, etc, for different purposes, to scratch different iches. My main focus is self-defense but I enjoy all my range toys and hope to get involved with some local, light competition. I've been thinking about a local steel challenge or action pistol.

I started my "one of each" collection concentrated on self-defense, focused on concealed carry. I now have a few "compact" pistols with 4" barrels that I can conceal really well. For long guns, I also wanted an AR and a shotgun. I've added those. Then I won an AK in a raffle at my range. I thought a lever rifle would be fun. I bought a .22 Henry and liked it so much that I added a .357 magnum. Levers are just fun to shoot.

Then I sort of got into 1911 pistols. I have a couple in .45, including one Sig, and one in 9mm. Now I'm thinking I want one in 10mm. (I don't have a 10mm in my "one of each" collection yet.) For future competition, I've added a few longer barrels, XDM Elite Precision (5.25") and a Glock 17L (6"). I wanted to have just one Glock in my collection. I have one S&W revolver (6") also in .357 magnum, one .22 revolver, one HK in 9mm, several XD models including one .45 Mod2 tactical (5"), one Taurus .22 tactical for plinking fun, one Ruger Mark IV for target shooting. I like plinking with .22LR. Oh yeah, I have one Derringer and one cap'n'ball black powder pistol.

I am a self-professed Springfield fanboy, my newest purchases being a couple of Echelon models. I wanted one comp'd pistol so I got the 4.5F Comp, and for a threaded barrel I got the 5.28" Threaded Barrel model of the Echelon.
My collection is fairly small compared to a lot of the members around here, but I have to strike a balance. I consider purpose, budget, convenience, usefulness, etc, when deciding on a firearm purchase. I really don't think I'll have to add too many more to my "one of each" collection. If you talk to Mrs. BassCliff I'm sure she'd tell you I have too many already. :LOL:

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All that to say, just make a list of what you want. Consider all the reasons why you want them. Prioritize as necessary. Have fun while you're training, collecting, and practicing.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
jboltersdorf said:
I currently own a Springfield 9mm which I really like, but feel I need to start a nice selection of useful guns. I'm not sure if I should get another handgun or rifle or shotgun. I have a multiple purpose for weapon ownership--1) home protection; 2) sporting enjoyment, and; 3) pissing off our commie governor here in Virginia. I need advice on the first two which will suffice in fulfilling #3. Recommendations ladies and gentlemen? Thanks! Joe
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Great feedback everyone--Thanks! I've now got a list of models to start trying out and comparing. Self defense is my #1 priority and I'm seriously considering concealed carry options. I like the recommendation of getting something that's "optics ready" also. Nothing tells criminals, "The red dot on your forehead isn't a bindi and your about to have a very bad day" better than a good laser sight. Regarding BassCliff's "model" question...I have a have a Springfield XD 9mm. Thank you for the quick responses and recommendations everyone!
 
Old_Me said:
i personally like handguns, both semi-automatic, and revolvers.

i have only been in this sport/hobby since january of 2020.

rifles to me fill a need for sport shooting as well, an if i can see my way to it, I want a Henry, (they are all lever action) maybe no more than up to a .38 caliber....i just love the old "cowboy style" of rifles.

as for shotguns, they too serve a need, so many say in home defense.

however, i own a house built in 1860, and as a result, a shotgun will travel thru many walls, and do MUCH damage here, so as a result...

i have NO NEED for a shotgun.

so, what you really may want to do is, try to rent a gun or 2 or 35 before YOU decide what YOU want.
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This is what I use for my house gun since we live in a townhouse complex, families on each side, just a FYI

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