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    Another variable added to the mix...

    And... here's an expanded summary of my factory ammo chronograph data after a quick trip to the range this morning. It rained AGAIN last night, and for a Sunday morning, the handgun line was nearly vacant right up until my last 30 minutes. Even then, it was not crowded at all and there were...
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    Another variable added to the mix...

    Yes, a revolver oriented "armorer" level class would be interesting. I haven't perused their catalogs, but some of the 'smithing schools that make individual classes / training materials might have some coverage. Other than that option, I don't know if anyone else (who's well known at least)...
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    Another variable added to the mix...

    Wolff Gunsprings. Type 1. On it, Chief! Yes, I experienced this same issue with a S&W 66, which I also purchased USED, very soon after I graduated from high school. At that time, long before the interwebs were a Real Thing, I was unaware of Wolff (in fact, I am not certain that Wolff was in...
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    Another variable added to the mix...

    UPDATE: Post data analysis: Winchester White Box / 130gr FMJ / published muzzle velocity (on box) : 800 fps Remington/UMC / 130gr FMJ / published muzzle velocity (web site https://www.remington.com/handgun/umc-handgun/29-23730.html): 800 fps NOTE: Neither Winchester nor Remington provides...
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    Another variable added to the mix...

    Good Saturday afternoon, ya'll ! It rained last night and I sort of figured that would discourage turnout at the outdoor range that I frequent. Turned out I was right and I had the entire pistol line to myself for almost two and a half hours. I went to just "have fun" and burn LOTS of...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    LOL. How familiar that sounds! My deceased (first) wife was VERY tolerant of my habits and hobbies. When we became empty nesters, we each got our "pick" of the bedrooms that our daughters formerly occupied. We kept a third up in shape and "clear" to accommodate guests. So we each had our...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    Perfect. Cool and dry! My supply got abused when my ex decided that my stockpile was consuming too much space indoors and mandated that the whole kit-and-kaboodle move to the garage. It spent a couple of years out there before she actually became "ex". Sigh. Live and learn, sometimes the...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    Thank you for the info regarding your experience with the plated boolits. re: Neglecting to post: Better late than never. I can't count the number of times when I was composing an email, text message, forum posting, etc late at night, stepped away to deal with an interruption, only to find...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    One LAST update and then... I'm gonna hit the PAUSE button here. Well.... I've just returned from the range where I shot the last three increments in my HP-38 / plated bullets load test ladder. This ammo I took for this trip had an "in-between" level of taper crimp applied to the bullets...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    Take good care of your powder and primer stash and store it well. I think that I'm learning a painful lesson here on what happens if one doesn't.
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    Well, I was half right. 4895 is an extruded single base powder. But BL-C(2) is a ball powder, I can't recall if it is single base or double base and I'm too lazy to go look it up right now.
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    Range report update on HP-38 load with a heavier crimp - The Saga Continues: I loaded up 25 more rounds of the Berry's plated bullets atop of my highest charge of HP-38 from my previous ladder test. This time I taper crimped the dickens out of them, case mouth being "pushed into" the bullet so...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    If I recall correctly, it was a mil-surp ball rifle powder that Mr. Hodgdon obtained and resold to bootstrap his company. Post WWII, the military was searching for the least-cost means of disposing of it and Mr. Hodgdon stepped up and said, "I'll buy it so that you don't have to dump it at sea,"...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    Yeah, in general most of the plated boolits still have a stated maximum of 1200fps "speed limit." Some are being made now with features (a thicker plating on the base for example) intended to withstand magnum speeds. Doesn't matter to me, though. I'm looking for a softer shooting load to make...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    BE86 is another Alliant powder, so that's a no-go for me. I notice that it IS available now from several sources, but until Alliant corrects/reverses its course, I am in search of alternatives to their products. Alliant has publicly given the entire US commercial market both middle fingers...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    I'm uncertain about when Hodgdon "declared" that they'd be the same. It's been a while, however. Yes, I have a sizeable collection of older "vintage" reloading data manuals, and the two powders definitely show differing data "back when."
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    What have you bought firearms related in the last 48 hours?

    Ammo boxes for my 38/357 reloads. Those that fit these cartridges properly are getting a little tougher to find in local brick-and-mortar stores. I find myself ordering online more frequently to get what used to be an always-on-the-shelf item. Sigh.
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    What have you bought firearms related in the last 48 hours?

    Nice leather. I've a couple of their 1911 OWB holsters and a couple of their belts. They make top notch stuff. Keep us posted here once you get that beauty in hand and try it out.
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    Nice! A single digit extreme spread is awesome. I'd expect that I could easily achieve the same results with Win 231/HP-38 if I were using either a lead bullet or a jacketed bullet with a cannelure where I could put an "uninhibited" crimp on it. I'm wrestling with the "two variables at the...
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    Question about HP-38 / Win 231 powder?

    If you used Win 231, you were using HP-38. They're the same powder, different labels, per Hodgdon's own statements. Regarding your comment about the similarities between Unique and HP-38/Win 231, yep, that's partly why I am trying it out as a substitute for Unique. Burn rates are fairly...
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