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we need the bastard love child of an Echelon Comp with an XDM. something to compete with the PDP's and make for a super fun range gun that could also be appealing to the 'duty gun' crowd.

Unfortunately fake optics continue to be a big issue for the industry. I was at a gun show and there were two booths selling counterfeit Trijicon and Eotechs. as for Vortex not telling us what they look for, that makes sense. If they tell us, the counterfeiters will learn what to work on ...

Vortex Defender is what you seek

I watched the doorbell video of him delivering it and I'll be honest, I kind of chuckled but dude did it all in one go.

Delivered yesterday.

I'm running a Trijicon RMR HD and don't have a gap either. wondering if it's an issue with the Crimson Trace?

you're welcome. it's what I went with for my Echelon with the x300 turbo. Mine has an RMR HD but no threaded barrel so it should be a similar setup to yours

https://www.redhilltactical.com/Springfield-Armory-Holster-Competition_p_41.html

ah bummer @smurfslayer because I'm running the same setup and have had zero issues. I've put approx 700 rounds through the gun with that optic and have not had 1 single malfunction. 100 rounds of Federal HST 124gr the other 600+ was PMC 115gr

James, appreciate you chiming in. I have an XDM 5.25 that I shot in USPSA Limited recently that I would love to mount a red dot but obviously that's proving problematic. AFAIK, neither PRP or Springer are doing optic cuts for that pistol. My Echelon has an RMR HD and I love that combo, just...

Question for everyone out there: if you were getting a Springfield Armory pistol today to train / shoot competitions with (USPSA / Steel Challenge / IDPA), what would you get? with Springfield eliminating the majority of the XDM line in 9mm, I feel like there's a void here. The Prodigy comes...

Chief: yes, the Echelon is currently in testing with CA and is expected to hit the roster. Sig really opened the door when they got their 320 approved and now Springfield is working on it. if you follow Ammo Bros in CA, they are constantly posting about which guns are making their way through...

why would you return it for that? slamming home a loaded mag will have more weight / inertia than an empty and can often cause the slide to run forward. we jokingly refer to this as a birthday bounce. it's not a bad thing. many of my pistols, in fact my Echelon and Mod 2 both do it rather...

if this were available in 5", I'd buy it in a heartbeat. but I also fear Springfield is done with their 'tactical' line.

so who is going to buy the first one?

ha in CA after DROS fees, sales tax, and Newsome's sin tax on guns, that'll be like $550. #KiddingSortofNotKidding

You'll need a plate that matches the footprint of the optic. This won't have the VIS system

I was about to send off my Mod 2 Tactical to get milled but I think this might be a better option. hmm... decisions, decisions.

another vote for CCW safe.

Mags and holster received thanks again @SaltyMonkey , really appreciate it