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How Many .308 Hits Can a Level IV Plate Survive?
- Thread starter Mike H.
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KillerFord1977
SAINT
Would be a heck of a shock factor to the vitals getting hit with a .308 or multiple rounds. Going to bet may be some crippling factor to the body with that.
Though, good to know the plate stop the penetration of a .308
Though, good to know the plate stop the penetration of a .308
Area52
Professional
Good article.…but again, it’s the plate that survives - not the wearer.
Just the wallop (such as from the .308 with lV plate) need not penetrate to kill…the trauma alone can and will stop a heart. A no-seat belt chest impact from steering wheel can cause cardiac arrest and death.
Just the wallop (such as from the .308 with lV plate) need not penetrate to kill…the trauma alone can and will stop a heart. A no-seat belt chest impact from steering wheel can cause cardiac arrest and death.
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
That's the issue with ceramic as it breaks apart. Steel/metal will not separate or bulge like ceramic does, however it can dent and might be as bad.
HansGruber
Ronin
You’d think that, but…there’s a video of the founder of Second Chance vests getting shot, point blank, by a FAL while wearing a rifle-rated vest. He even stands on one foot to disprove the myth of “knockdown” power…
He barely moves.
HansGruber
Ronin
That’s psychological, not physical. The bullet doesn’t have near enough energy to move a full grown person.
Again, see my comment about the guy taking a .308 in the vest while standing on one foot.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
Talyn
SAINT
It's always been my assumption that tests are done at point-blank range, but ratings don't always say that.
I'd like to see plates/BA ratings for ammo types for longer ranges. If a Level 4 plate can take a round w/o penetration at point-blank to 50 yds., I'd like to see tests at longer ranges with Level 3/3+ plates since the various rifle/pistol rounds will be slowing down the further out you go.
I'd like to see plates/BA ratings for ammo types for longer ranges. If a Level 4 plate can take a round w/o penetration at point-blank to 50 yds., I'd like to see tests at longer ranges with Level 3/3+ plates since the various rifle/pistol rounds will be slowing down the further out you go.
Talyn
SAINT
Based on my AOPs I prefer Level 3+ lightweight.
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Bassbob
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I've seen what green tips do to AR500 at 25-50 yards. Not lugging that stuff around for that performance level. Ceramic plates are lighter, but don't drop them or rough handle them too much. If I'm spending money on plates I figure I'll spend more and get the Shotstop plates. The odds of me ever needing them are slim unless I'm on the range with that Asian dude on the other thread with the hostage target.
I've seen what green tips do to AR500 at 25-50 yards. Not lugging that stuff around for that performance level. Ceramic plates are lighter, but don't drop them or rough handle them too much. If I'm spending money on plates I figure I'll spend more and get the Shotstop plates. The odds of me ever needing them are slim unless I'm on the range with that Asian dude on the other thread with the hostage target.
Talyn
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Talyn
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Trauma pads help, but still...
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Trauma pads are pads that, while not bullet resistant, are quite useful for decreasing and distributing a bullet’s energy beyond what the vest or armor plate can do by itself. They are worn in your carrier behind the armor.
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
Don't forget the splay layer for the front as fragments can cause damage also. Some might be covered in it already?Trauma pads help, but still...
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How do you prevent backface deformation injuries?
There are two ways to mitigate backface deformation in soft armor: Wearing thicker vests or using trauma pads. Thicker vests, however, can add weight and significant cost to a ballistic vest.
For hard armor, wearing trauma pads or a layer of soft armor behind the plate can also attenuate the backface deformation.
Trauma pads are pads that, while not bullet resistant, are quite useful for decreasing and distributing a bullet’s energy beyond what the vest or armor plate can do by itself. They are worn in your carrier behind the armor.
Talyn
SAINT
Shotstop Diridium. Supposedly great stuff. Nice and expensive.
I've seen what green tips do to AR500 at 25-50 yards. Not lugging that stuff around for that performance level. Ceramic plates are lighter, but don't drop them or rough handle them too much. If I'm spending money on plates I figure I'll spend more and get the Shotstop plates. The odds of me ever needing them are slim unless I'm on the range with that Asian dude on the other thread with the hostage target.
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