.45 super
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The only standard 45 acp guns that would take a regular diet are the HK USP and HK45 (maybe the FNX 45 but not sure) as far as 1911’s unless specifically rated tread with caution.
I know the Federal 230 HST Plus P dan be hard on the so that tells me I would t run them regularly
But everyone can do whatever they feel comfortable with!
I know the Federal 230 HST Plus P dan be hard on the so that tells me I would t run them regularly
But everyone can do whatever they feel comfortable with!
Talyn
SAINT
A friend of mine had/has one.
But it maybe better to go the 460 Rowland route since .45 Super conversion info seems to be unobtainable & you can shoot .45 Super through a Rowland conversion.
There's alot of old info out there on the net so that's why I'd go with a 460 kit.
Besides a "fully-supported barrel" its recommended to use a #32 recoil spring in a stel full-sized 1911, HS firing pin spring changes & mag spring changes.
This page openes but nothing seems to work (at least on my end) in the pages links. Ace Custom doesn't seem to be in business anymore.
Info from Buffalo Bore.
From one of my old posts.
www.thearmorylife.com
But it maybe better to go the 460 Rowland route since .45 Super conversion info seems to be unobtainable & you can shoot .45 Super through a Rowland conversion.
There's alot of old info out there on the net so that's why I'd go with a 460 kit.
Besides a "fully-supported barrel" its recommended to use a #32 recoil spring in a stel full-sized 1911, HS firing pin spring changes & mag spring changes.
This page openes but nothing seems to work (at least on my end) in the pages links. Ace Custom doesn't seem to be in business anymore.
Info from Buffalo Bore.
From one of my old posts.
Cartridge of the Week: The .45 Super
The .45 Super The .45 Super is a powerful handgun cartridge that is externally/dimensionally identical to 45 ACP or 45 ACP +P. Developed in 1988 by Dean Grennell, a well-known writer in the firearms field. It has a thicker case wall and is loaded to higher pressures, which offers an average 300...
www.thearmorylife.com
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HansGruber
Ronin
I’ve shot it in HK USP’s with no modifications, but they are designed for it.
Usually, you’ll need a heavier recoil spring in a 1911. Sometimes you’ll need heavier mag springs as well for reliable feeding.
Usually, you’ll need a heavier recoil spring in a 1911. Sometimes you’ll need heavier mag springs as well for reliable feeding.
Thanks for the reply everyone. I knew heavier springs would be needed and figured a barrel swap would be a good idea. Not looking for a steady diet of it. Just looking for a little extra oomph once in a while at the range.
The .460 might be a better option.
The .460 might be a better option.
I hadn't thought about mag springs but makes sense because of faster slide action. Thanks.
TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
460rowland max pressure @ 40k
45super @ 28K
45acp @ 21k
45acp +p @23k
big difference between the 3 (excluding the +p). i know a person that has a 1911 460r setup, but not sure about spring pressure. it is suggested to use a brake with the 1911 and glock conversions. glock doesn't require as much spring pressure. going super in a 1911 w/o brake you might need to add 4-6# to spring weight. i've been wanting to do a glock/m/p 45acp to 45super conversion and not batter the frames. when tuned correctly it doesn't take a tole on the frames.
45super @ 28K
45acp @ 21k
45acp +p @23k
big difference between the 3 (excluding the +p). i know a person that has a 1911 460r setup, but not sure about spring pressure. it is suggested to use a brake with the 1911 and glock conversions. glock doesn't require as much spring pressure. going super in a 1911 w/o brake you might need to add 4-6# to spring weight. i've been wanting to do a glock/m/p 45acp to 45super conversion and not batter the frames. when tuned correctly it doesn't take a tole on the frames.
Warrior9(Ret)
Custom
I’m definitely behind the power curve on all of these non-standard calibers. I need to do some research 
TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
True!^^^^^^^^
TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
45acp +p max psi 23k
45super 28k
460r 40k
from what i can find 45super is basically the same as 45acp +p+ (28,500). so for debate if 45super can shoot safely in +p rated, answer is no unless it's at or less than 28k. i have standard and +p headstamped brass for 9 and 45 for just in case of mixup. now on deciding if i want a 460r or 45super for my next 45cal?
45super 28k
460r 40k
from what i can find 45super is basically the same as 45acp +p+ (28,500). so for debate if 45super can shoot safely in +p rated, answer is no unless it's at or less than 28k. i have standard and +p headstamped brass for 9 and 45 for just in case of mixup. now on deciding if i want a 460r or 45super for my next 45cal?
rcurtner
Professional
Talyn opened the Ace 45 site, warned of virus content.A friend of mine had/has one.
But it maybe better to go the 460 Rowland route since .45 Super conversion info seems to be unobtainable & you can shoot .45 Super through a Rowland conversion.
There's alot of old info out there on the net so that's why I'd go with a 460 kit.
Besides a "fully-supported barrel" its recommended to use a #32 recoil spring in a stel full-sized 1911, HS firing pin spring changes & mag spring changes.
This page openes but nothing seems to work (at least on my end) in the pages links. Ace Custom doesn't seem to be in business anymore.
Info from Buffalo Bore.
From one of my old posts.
Cartridge of the Week: The .45 Super
The .45 Super The .45 Super is a powerful handgun cartridge that is externally/dimensionally identical to 45 ACP or 45 ACP +P. Developed in 1988 by Dean Grennell, a well-known writer in the firearms field. It has a thicker case wall and is loaded to higher pressures, which offers an average 300...
Talyn
SAINT
I don't get a virus warning on my end but a "not secure".
But then again I did post this..."This page openes but nothing seems to work (at least on my end) in the pages links. Ace Custom doesn't seem to be in business anymore."
rcurtner
Professional
My computer doesn't appear to be comprised just a wee bit concerned, not your fault.
Anchorite
Operator
Yes. I’ve shot plenty of 45 Super through my 4506 over the years.
But I no longer do so. I found what I believe to be the better mousetrap.
I’ve dropped back and settled on a 250gr poly-coated FP running at +/- 950fps, which puts it squarely in +P territory.
This load is virtually the equivalent of a 45 Colt load if you stop and think about it. This is taking the same sized bullet in similar velocity range and putting it an auto pistol.
Easily suitable for anything in the Lower 48.
There just isn’t a reason for me to run a 45 Super anymore.
But I no longer do so. I found what I believe to be the better mousetrap.
I’ve dropped back and settled on a 250gr poly-coated FP running at +/- 950fps, which puts it squarely in +P territory.
This load is virtually the equivalent of a 45 Colt load if you stop and think about it. This is taking the same sized bullet in similar velocity range and putting it an auto pistol.
Easily suitable for anything in the Lower 48.
There just isn’t a reason for me to run a 45 Super anymore.
I have a Glock G21 I put in a better barrel and recoil spring and shoot 45 Super thru it. http://www.45super.com/
My favorite is 40 Super, 45 Magnum brass necked to 40, both require a 22 or 24 pound recoil spring.
I haven't shot much 40 or 45 Super lately.
I have decided to getting a G41 slide for the Glock and just shoot 10MM.
My favorite is 40 Super, 45 Magnum brass necked to 40, both require a 22 or 24 pound recoil spring.
I haven't shot much 40 or 45 Super lately.
I have decided to getting a G41 slide for the Glock and just shoot 10MM.
Anchorite
Operator
Can't really go wrong with a 10mm. It's a capable round!
I’ve shot it in a Taurus 1911. I installed a #28 recoil spring and a flat bottomed firing pin stop. Also needed a Wilson combat extra power magazine. (Can’t remember the number, I want to say 47D but not sure.). Seems to work fine but still hammers the gun pretty good. If I was going to make a steady habit of it I think I’d add a #28 or #30 main spring.