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PieterCoetzee

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Im a huge fan of SMGs/PCCs. A large part of that is because of where I live (worked) and have lived (worked). My mostly suburban with sometime spent in an urban zone gives me respect for the capabilities of a SMG. In those confines a SMG type weapon, even a semi auto version as long as it has a SMG length barrel. If I must have a 16" barrel, then I might as well have a rifle cartridge (although there are still some advantages to pistol calibers).

I break SMGs into a few categories, first being the Mini/Micro size guns (VZ61, Mac 10, Mini Uzi, MP5K), next being the Full size Go To War type guns, (Thompson, STEn, Sterling, M3 Grease Gun, PPSh41, Colt SMG). Beyond those are the Intermediate/Magnum guns, this category would include the MP5-10, the Kriss Vector 10mm, and the M1 Carbine Advisor Carbine.

The Advisor Carbine got its start in Viet Nam when some armorer cut down a M2 (full auto) Carbine with a folding stock. No doubt some were simply sawed off wood stocked guns with no butt, making it a large pistol. By far the M1A1 folding stock version was the best. The barrels were typically cut down to just in front of the handguard and the front sight was reattached. Sometimes the cone type flash hider was attached.

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Using the 15 or typically 30 round magazine, the gun was especially portable with the stock folded

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Anyone recognize this guy holding the Advisor Carbine?

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Here he is again

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The 30 Carbine cartridge even in the abbreviated barrel, still offers better ballistics than the 45acp of the VN era and today, it exceeds most SMG cartridges (perhaps a good side by side with the Soviet 762x25) The M1 Carbine was one if the first PDWs and the Advisor version makes it even easier to carry
 
Myself and a few others have said the M1 Carbine would make a better patrol rifle option than an AR the round itself which is closer to a rifle than a handgun. Short and light and any Dit or optic can be mounted with almost no mechanical offset

AR’s while it was great with removable carrying handle if you look at the majority of new hotness they are going back to super high mounts and riesers to the point I’m wondering if they should just put the carrying handle back on. Of course a lot of folks want magnifiers and super huge red/green dot optics which for Municiple LE is overkill (talking a standard Pateol rifle, not SWAT doing SWAT things)

But a lot of people want to dress like DEVGROUP
 
PieterCoetzee said:
Im a huge fan of SMGs/PCCs. A large part of that is because of where I live (worked) and have lived (worked). My mostly suburban with sometime spent in an urban zone gives me respect for the capabilities of a SMG. In those confines a SMG type weapon, even a semi auto version as long as it has a SMG length barrel. If I must have a 16" barrel, then I might as well have a rifle cartridge (although there are still some advantages to pistol calibers).

I break SMGs into a few categories, first being the Mini/Micro size guns (VZ61, Mac 10, Mini Uzi, MP5K), next being the Full size Go To War type guns, (Thompson, STEn, Sterling, M3 Grease Gun, PPSh41, Colt SMG). Beyond those are the Intermediate/Magnum guns, this category would include the MP5-10, the Kriss Vector 10mm, and the M1 Carbine Advisor Carbine.

The Advisor Carbine got its start in Viet Nam when some armorer cut down a M2 (full auto) Carbine with a folding stock. No doubt some were simply sawed off wood stocked guns with no butt, making it a large pistol. By far the M1A1 folding stock version was the best. The barrels were typically cut down to just in front of the handguard and the front sight was reattached. Sometimes the cone type flash hider was attached.

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Using the 15 or typically 30 round magazine, the gun was especially portable with the stock folded

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Anyone recognize this guy holding the Advisor Carbine?

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Here he is again

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The 30 Carbine cartridge even in the abbreviated barrel, still offers better ballistics than the 45acp of the VN era and today, it exceeds most SMG cartridges (perhaps a good side by side with the Soviet 762x25) The M1 Carbine was one if the first PDWs and the Advisor version makes it even easier to carry
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Norm!
 
Hahaha yes Norman Swarzkopft. I thought he was a Lieutenant but a reference said Major in those picks???

I like ARs but I do think theres a tendency to hang too much crap on them and turn a 6lb rifle into 10lbs. Yes the trend is to raise optics so they can be used with night vision goggles. When NV isnt a consideration, Id rather scrunch down on the stock then use elevated optics (height over bore matters)

The M1 Carbine would make a good PD weapon but the AR is too much of a standard now Heck I thought a lever action 30-30 would be good to avoid the military look
 
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