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An Immigration Crisis Beyond Imagining

Talyn

Talyn

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The U.S. has experienced surges of illegal immigration in the past, but these have been brought quickly under control by implementing policies to deter, block, detain, and deport illegal immigrants. Not this time.

With the percentage of those allowed to stay now approaching 100 percent, if current trends hold, the total allowed to remain in the U.S. under the Biden administration will reach ten million by next January. The reality is even worse, because these numbers do not include the people who entered the U.S. illegally without being apprehended—sometimes referred to as “gotaways”—a number the Border Patrol estimates but does not make public. That estimate over the past three years is two million.

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An Immigration Crisis Beyond Imagining

Of the over 7.6 million illegals encountered by Border Patrol since January 2021, the number allowed to stay inside the U.S. is somewhere north of five million. But with the percentage of those allowed to stay now approaching 100 percent, if current trends hold, the total allowed to remain in...
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No, this is to pack the House and Senate, legal, or illegal, they're counted during the Census, and what do you think those numbers will do to the House of Representatives?

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I live near the border and we don't see all the things you guys worry about. Seriously.

There is a real problem with the adjutication time for asylum seekers, due to lack of judges and courts. But none of the immigration proposals address this. Almost all asylum seekers are eventually deported. It just takes three years instead of four months.

The country has always required new immigrants to prosper and a steady stream of bottom-job workers is probably the reason we're a well off country.

Lastly, the good old days described above never existed. Immigration panic has been a potent—if imaginary—political issue since almost the day WWII ended.

I'm always surprised when people can't remember what happened earlier in their own lives.
 
jschmidt said:
I live near the border and we don't see all the things you guys worry about. Seriously.

There is a real problem with the adjutication time for asylum seekers, due to lack of judges and courts. But none of the immigration proposals address this. Almost all asylum seekers are eventually deported. It just takes three years instead of four months.

The country has always required new immigrants to prosper and a steady stream of bottom-job workers is probably the reason we're a well off country.

Lastly, the good old days described above never existed. Immigration panic has been a potent—if imaginary—political issue since almost the day WWII ended.

I'm always surprised when people can't remember what happened earlier in their own lives.
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I don't believe I have ever read so much of the stuff that comes out of the South end of a North bound bull from one person in my entire life.

I can't decide if you are trying to convince yourself or if you are trying to convince all the rest of us. I can tell you which isn't working though. 🤣
 
papa said:
I don't believe I have ever read so much of the stuff that comes out of the South end of a North bound bull from one person in my entire life.

I can't decide if you are trying to convince yourself or if you are trying to convince all the rest of us. I can tell you which isn't working though. 🤣
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He's simply parroting Biden admin's talking points Papa. You'd have to be stupid or complicit to pretend the immigration situation isn't significantly worse now than it's ever been. Or to not recognize the reasons why.
 

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jschmidt, it seems to me there would likely be enough judges and courts to handle the true asylum seekers if the number was what was allowed by law to enter the country legally. But when they're coming in/across without any realistic intervention such as we've been seeing (at least by those who are actually looking) during the current administration, there's simply no way to keep up. Do you really expect anyone here to believe you've not seen these numbers?​


I read a report stating they're giving out assigned court dates as far out as 8-10+ years. Now realistically just how many of them do you think will actually show up after 8-10years of building a life here, and of the ones who do, how many will show up with two or three 'anchor' babies. Are you still willing claim "Almost all asylum seekers are eventually deported."? The last number of migrants I saw reported was approximately 8-10 million known illegals and who knows how many 'got aways'. In addition to all that, how many have been actually flown in across our country under cover of darkness illegally by our own elected leadership and do not show up on the border count?

Just out of curiosity, have you not seen the TV news reports of the groups in the hundreds, some even thousands, coming across in droves? Have you not seen the large groups coming up through Mexico called caravans? You said "The country has always required new immigrants to prosper and a steady stream of bottom-job workers" .....". That's true, but those immigrants have benefited from those jobs as well as the country has. Those who came legally for the most part were in fact seeking asylum and/or simply a better life for themselves and their families. But what we're dealing with right now are not 'new immigrants'. They are migrants and others crossing our border ILLEGALLY and with the full approval and acceptance of our own government. I'm all for legal immigration that benefits both the immigrant and the country, but somewhere along the line that notion has been overlooked.

We also at one time expected immigrants to at some point become assimilated into our way of life ... our culture. And most immigrants came here with that very thing in mind and wanted to become an American citizen for themselves and their families. But nowadays we're almost totally inundated with so many who come for all the wrong reasons and don't give a damn about assimilation. Some want the 'perks' but not so much the 'work', some for other very nefarious reasons. By far the majority of those we're dealing with right now have not and cannot be vetted even to a minor degree. Many come from countries where there are no records of even births, much less criminal and/or medical records. Diseases are being brought back into this country that were virtually wiped out generations ago. And anyone who doesn't believe there are many coming here these days that are hell bent on the total destruction of the USA is either totally ignorant, a liar, or totally devoid of any reality. Frankly I don't blame the migrants for taking advantage of what our government leaders are providing them as much as I fear it is for the worst for the future of our country, but what I don't understand is why our government is providing it.
 
jschmidt said:
I live near the border and we don't see all the things you guys worry about. Seriously.

There is a real problem with the adjutication time for asylum seekers, due to lack of judges and courts. But none of the immigration proposals address this. Almost all asylum seekers are eventually deported. It just takes three years instead of four months.

The country has always required new immigrants to prosper and a steady stream of bottom-job workers is probably the reason we're a well off country.

Lastly, the good old days described above never existed. Immigration panic has been a potent—if imaginary—political issue since almost the day WWII ended.

I'm always surprised when people can't remember what happened earlier in their own lives.
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The real problems began when America stopped requiring assimilation into our American way of life.

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