December 6th and December 7th

[HayesGreener]

It has been 84 years since the day that lives in infamy with the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. The sleeping giant awakened and over 4 years made the Japanese pay a terrible price through application of maximum violence. At the cost of many thousands of American and allied lives.

More locally to me, on December 6 2019, a Saudi Air Force flight student, under orders from Al Queda leaders in Yemen, carried out a mass shooting terrorist attack at NAS Pensacola, killing 3 and wounding 8. The sheriff's office responded and killed the shooter. The base had armed security but Navy base security were inept and incapable of an effective response. The Navy was so hard over against firearms on the base that people who might have stopped him early on were defenseless. The whole incident occurring on December 6 was eerie to me being on the eve of Pearl Harbor Day. Vetting of those foreign flight students was wholly inadequate. Multiple Islamic terrorism attacks have occurred since, the most recent being the adam henry who shot the two Guardsmen in D.C.

My thoughts revolve around the fact that attacks on America, and our way of life, are relentless. The threat posed by unvetted immigrants who refuse to assimilate is unsettling. The primary threat to America is no longer from foreign bombs or invaders. The invasion has already occurred and the threat is in amongst us. Europe learned this hard lesson decades ago but we were not paying attention.

Make sure your children and grandchildren know how to use firearms my friends, I fear they will need them.

 

[mikep]

The invasion has most certainly occurred and continues. Those to blame are the morons, fools and idiots in DC. The ability to defend ourselves through our Second Amendment right has never been more important.

 

[trader]

It has been 84 years since the day that lives in infamy with the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. The sleeping giant awakened and over 4 years made the Japanese pay a terrible price through application of maximum violence. At the cost of many thousands of American and allied lives.

More locally to me, on December 6 2019, a Saudi Air Force flight student, under orders from Al Queda leaders in Yemen, carried out a mass shooting terrorist attack at NAS Pensacola, killing 3 and wounding 8. The sheriff's office responded and killed the shooter. The base had armed security but Navy base security were inept and incapable of an effective response. The Navy was so hard over against firearms on the base that people who might have stopped him early on were defenseless. The whole incident occurring on December 6 was eerie to me being on the eve of Pearl Harbor Day. Vetting of those foreign flight students was wholly inadequate. Multiple Islamic terrorism attacks have occurred since, the most recent being the adam henry who shot the two Guardsmen in D.C.

My thoughts revolve around the fact that attacks on America, and our way of life, are relentless. The threat posed by unvetted immigrants who refuse to assimilate is unsettling. The primary threat to America is no longer from foreign bombs or invaders. The invasion has already occurred and the threat is in amongst us. Europe learned this hard lesson decades ago but we were not paying attention.

Make sure your children and grandchildren know how to use firearms my friends, I fear they will need them.

Well written Hayes with one caveat, Europe has definitely NOT learned this hard lesson decades ago. Their traitorous "leaders" (globalists) continue to flood europe with just the kind of invaders you describe. Change is needed now or their will be no "western" nations to speak of. Cheers.

 

[negolien]

15 minutes from start to end and it was off base cops who save taxpayers money? Pretty impressive on their part utterly disgusting embarrassment for the Navy.

 

[Shibadog]

I am continually amazed at military bases being protected by contract “security” services or unarmed/improperly armed military folk. Really? They are not trustworthy/capable enough to defend their own base? Armed (with loaded weapons including one up the spout) Military personnel should be securing their own facilities-and if called up for policing areas after disaster (or failures by local law enforcement) should be armed the same.

 

[HayesGreener]

I am continually amazed at military bases being protected by contract “security” services or unarmed/improperly armed military folk. Really? They are not trustworthy/capable enough to defend their own base? Armed (with loaded weapons including one up the spout) Military personnel should be securing their own facilities-and if called up for policing areas after disaster (or failures by local law enforcement) should be armed the same.

I don't know what it is about Navy bases and their security posture. In my experience Air Force, Army, and Marines have their act together for security. You would think with SEAL corporate knowledge on board they would be more savvy.

 

[TidalWave]

I am continually amazed at military bases being protected by contract “security” services or unarmed/improperly armed military folk. Really? They are not trustworthy/capable enough to defend their own base? Armed (with loaded weapons including one up the spout) Military personnel should be securing their own facilities-and if called up for policing areas after disaster (or failures by local law enforcement) should be armed the same.

I share that concern, Shiba….
Looked into some of that, on my own, once when I was on active duty (Army; Corps of Engineers) and we were looking at ways to “harden” security at stateside bases.
Long story short: I questioned the mentality of “build something” when nothing much was being looked at on the human element side. (Sidebar: this is how govt/public school ‘systems’ work- Johnny can’t read = build new schoolhouse…)
What I was able to glean was that the base security and contracting was a mishmash of things involving economic development (govt jobs), a vague idea that soldiers can be trained better & more efficiently if they’re not standing guard, unloading trucks at the warehouse, peeling potatoes, etc, etc. it fit into things like retention (bored soldiers not re-enlisting). There was even a cost/benefit study somewhere in the mess. I don’t recall it all, but discovered it was DoD wide and not a local thing. Also outside our purview , so we stuck to our end of things…

 

[Annihilator]

I am continually amazed at military bases being protected by contract “security” services or unarmed/improperly armed military folk. Really? They are not trustworthy/capable enough to defend their own base? Armed (with loaded weapons including one up the spout) Military personnel should be securing their own facilities-and if called up for policing areas after disaster (or failures by local law enforcement) should be armed the same.

While I haven’t been in the military, but not to have our own guys guard and protect our bases is asinine, need to use our own military police to do this instead of trusting some Joe Blow who is just hired help.

 

[Annihilator]

Good program on the History Channel, 24 Hours After

 

[Recusant]

Theodore Geisel, also known as Dr. Seuss, worked as the chief editorial cartoonist for the New York magazine PM, creating over 400 editorial cartoons. In this cartoon from 2/42 Seuss saw Japanese Americans in California, Oregon, and Washington as a "Fifth Column" loyal to Imperial Japan, receiving explosives, prepared to conduct sabotage against the US when directed. Today we know that the majority of Japanese Americans were totally loyal and supported the US. As harsh as this cartoon message seems today, this was the collective thought that prevailed in America in 1942. But it seems that today's Americans are too politically correct to perceive the dangers America faces today.​

 

[powerboatr]

I don't know what it is about Navy bases and their security posture. In my experience Air Force, Army, and Marines have their act together for security. You would think with SEAL corporate knowledge on board they would be more savvy.

its because ,,,well in my time 1982 to 2004
that the leadership felt sailors were tooo dangerous to carry loaded weapons
except seals, pilots, aircrew .. even though the rest of navy did all the dangerous stuff liek stand watch on deck with an empty pistol or rifle
do shore patrol un armed.
let us stand gate guard UNARMED , not even carry an empty
my last few years it started changing, i think 9/11 had much to do with that perception
when we did counter narco ops in the GULF of America during clintons reign we as aviators were freaking ARMED
we assisted ship personnel with boarding, etc and stood armed and loaded on side of ship to help
and we sank a SHIP LOAD OF BOATS full of drugs
imo all military folks should be allowed to carry on base if they are in a job that can be related to security ,
with a caveat...we get range time once a week. make it part of the PT regime

 

[HayesGreener]

its because ,,,well in my time 1982 to 2004
that the leadership felt sailors were tooo dangerous to carry loaded weapons
except seals, pilots, aircrew .. even though the rest of navy did all the dangerous stuff liek stand watch on deck with an empty pistol or rifle
do shore patrol un armed.
let us stand gate guard UNARMED , not even carry an empty
my last few years it started changing, i think 9/11 had much to do with that perception
when we did counter narco ops in the GULF of America during clintons reign we as aviators were freaking ARMED
we assisted ship personnel with boarding, etc and stood armed and loaded on side of ship to help
and we sank a SHIP LOAD OF BOATS full of drugs
imo all military folks should be allowed to carry on base if they are in a job that can be related to security ,
with a caveat...we get range time once a week. make it part of the PT regime

NAS Whiting Field is near me. A number of years ago, the local sheriff was invited to a function on base. He was in his cruiser in uniform but the nitwit gate guards said he couldn't come on base with his sidearm. They finally got that straightened out but I did notice sheriff's units doing heavy traffic enforcement on the approaches to the base for several weeks after that. In contrast the wing commander at my last Air Force base invited local law enforcement to come on the base in their cruisers and to use the facilities like the gym, pool, firing ranges, etc. It's a culture thing, I think.

 

[HayesGreener]

Somehow this is very American

 

[Shibadog]

While I haven’t been in the military, but not to have our own guys guard and protect our bases is asinine, need to use our own military police to do this instead of trusting some Joe Blow who is just hired help.

I was up at Knox a couple months ago-all contract security folks. Un freaking real.

 

[Faulkner]

 

[3L120]

I believe almost all bases use contract security nowadays, except perhaps Guard bases. I was the PMO at Camp Roberts CA for 7 years and my MPs came from a Cal Guard MP Brigade in Northern California. Many of them were cops in real life , so were decent. That was 30+ years ago.