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Kcboats

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I recently purchased another Springfield!! Whoot, whoot!! But have a slight issue. Got home and pulled the slide back to remove the little red barrel flag and the slide locked back on an empty mag like it should. Removed the flag and tried to release the slide and it will not drop. Remove the mag and it will drop but very sticky. Racked the slide without a mag and it still sticky feeling but works. Put the mag back in and can not release the slide. Took it back to the dealer and they told me this common with all new 1911s. I am not a gunsmith in any way/shape but I have a lot of 1911s and not a one of them does this. Including 2 Garrisons, a GI model, American Eagles, RIA and Dan Wessons. Is this common now? Or are they just being weird? Curious what the Springfield reps think if they see this. Seems a brand new Springfield Operator AOS model, 5" in 9mm should not be having this issue out of the box to my thinking.
 
Step 1, as mentioned, a very good cleaning and oiling. Hopefully case closed. Step 2, if needed, try a different magazine. If neither 1 nor 2 resolves the issue then step 3, as mentioned, contact SA direct and follow their suggestions.

Step 4, report back here to satisfy all the curious folks.
 
Most likely the issue is going to be the ejector. It's MIM and was probably not trued before installation. It is an easy fix. An India stone and about 10 minutes of your time.
Attached are 2 photos. The shiny spots are the areas on this one showing the high spots that were binding against the slide, retarding slide movement.
 

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Does it donut with all the magazines or just one?

It xoukd be possibly a magazine if it’s with all and consistent I would run a few mags through it at the range and see. It will most likely break in

Worst case if it continues Springfield has some great customer service
 
Hi,

Kcboats said:
I recently purchased another Springfield!! Whoot, whoot!! But have a slight issue. Got home and pulled the slide back to remove the little red barrel flag and the slide locked back on an empty mag like it should. Removed the flag and tried to release the slide and it will not drop. Remove the mag and it will drop but very sticky. Racked the slide without a mag and it still sticky feeling but works. Put the mag back in and can not release the slide. Took it back to the dealer and they told me this common with all new 1911s. I am not a gunsmith in any way/shape but I have a lot of 1911s and not a one of them does this. Including 2 Garrisons, a GI model, American Eagles, RIA and Dan Wessons. Is this common now? Or are they just being weird? Curious what the Springfield reps think if they see this. Seems a brand new Springfield Operator AOS model, 5" in 9mm should not be having this issue out of the box to my thinking.
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Congratulations on your new Springfield. I agree with those above, a good cleaning, a break-in period, take a close look at the magazine and try some different ones. I would not trust my smithing skills enough to start filing on a new gun so it would go back for warranty work. That's just me. I don't like voiding awarranty unless I really have to. ;)

Do you pull the slide back a little while pressing the slide release at the same time? Will that allow the slide to move forward on an empty mag? For a couple of my guns I racked the slide hundreds of times to help the break-in process.

That's all I got. It sounds like you've got a handle on it. Please keep us informed. I'm looking forward to a happy ending. :)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
As mentioned, a good cleaning, relube, and a breakin. Sounds like you got a tight slide release, if problem continues, call Springfield CS up and see what they say, you go working on a new gun and you may just void your lifetime warranty that you might need down the road, just my opinion
 
I have bought a lot of guns new, including numerous Springfields (including within last year an AOS Emissary and AOS TRP). I can’t tell you if ANY of them ran right out of the box because I ALWAYS take them home, break them down, clean out all the long term storage “lubricants”, clean out any other gunk (most would be surprised how much different type of residue is in a new gun), lubricate liberally (but logically), and reassemble for maiden voyage to the range. I have had ONE that had to go back for warranty service - a DW Guardian in .38 Super. They had to recut and polish the feed ramp AND put in the proper link. Stuff happens. And it doesn’t just happen to Springfield.

Here is a picture of what the recoil spring assembly of my HD 3.6 looked like upon receipt from my LGS after being ordered, built, and delivered by Staccato directly. It seemed to be dried up storage protectant, like maybe cosmoline. Must have been a RSA that spent a long time on the shelf! It took me 20-30 minutes to chip it all off. I am certainly glad I didn’t run gun out of the box as it’s likely that crap would have chipped out and potentially gotten into all the functioning parts of the gun. Funny thing is, if you read around, Staccatos that come from the factory to the consumer are supposed to arrive range ready - obviously this one did not!

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I would certainly field strip, do a thorough cleaning, lubricant with reliable oil of your choice, and then see how things operate. If you’re having same issues after that, call Springfield and see what they say.

p.s. You should have seen the crap I cleaned out of my FN Reflex I picked up this week. Seemed to be more cosmoline or some such, but wasn’t dried out like in the Staccato. And even after I thought I got it all out, then fired it, I found even more in some nooks and crannies while I was cleaning it again.
 
An out-of-spec ejector can indeed cause the slide to stick, as it may not allow proper extraction of the spent casing, leading to malfunctions. It's advisable to check the ejector's fit and consider replacing it with a correctly spec'd part if issues persist.

mdshooters.com

Understanding Slide Sticking Issues​

When a slide sticks on a firearm, it can often be attributed to components that are out of specification. One common culprit is the ejector.

Ejector Specifications​

  • Function: The ejector is responsible for removing spent casings from the chamber. If it is out of spec, it may not function properly.
  • Symptoms of Issues:
    • Failure to eject spent casings.
    • Slide sticking or not cycling smoothly.
    • Difficulty in chambering new rounds.

Potential Solutions​

  1. Inspect the Ejector:
    • Check if the ejector is properly installed and aligned.
    • Ensure it is not damaged or excessively worn.
  2. Replace the Ejector:
    • Consider replacing it with a new, OEM part to ensure proper fit and function.
  3. Adjust the Extractor:
    • Sometimes, issues with the extractor can mimic ejector problems. Ensure the extractor is functioning correctly and is not too tight.
  4. Consult Manufacturer:
    • If the firearm is from a specific manufacturer, reaching out for support can provide insights or replacement parts.

Additional Considerations​

  • Slide Fit: Ensure that the slide itself is not out of spec. A poorly fitting slide can also cause sticking issues.
  • Lubrication: Proper lubrication can help reduce friction and improve slide movement.
Addressing these factors can help resolve issues with a sticking slide related to an out-of-spec ejector.
mdshooters.com
 
Kcboats said:
I recently purchased another Springfield!! Whoot, whoot!! But have a slight issue. Got home and pulled the slide back to remove the little red barrel flag and the slide locked back on an empty mag like it should. Removed the flag and tried to release the slide and it will not drop. Remove the mag and it will drop but very sticky. Racked the slide without a mag and it still sticky feeling but works. Put the mag back in and can not release the slide. Took it back to the dealer and they told me this common with all new 1911s. I am not a gunsmith in any way/shape but I have a lot of 1911s and not a one of them does this. Including 2 Garrisons, a GI model, American Eagles, RIA and Dan Wessons. Is this common now? Or are they just being weird? Curious what the Springfield reps think if they see this. Seems a brand new Springfield Operator AOS model, 5" in 9mm should not be having this issue out of the box to my thinking.
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I wouldn’t monkey around with changing parts or filing parts on a brand new gun. Just call SA. Their customer service is outstanding. FWIW, your dealer is blowing smoke. I’d think twice about them if that’s the level of their expertise.
 
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