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Hegseth Move Will Allow Service Members To Carry Personal Firearms On Military Bases

Annihilator said:
Ok, yea or nay on this issue…..

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Oh yes. When we went to Vegas in October we actually contacted the SPs regarding getting onto Nellis to do some shopping at the Exchange. They told us that as long as the firearms were properly locked up, unloaded, with the ammo stored separately, we could bring them onto the base. Couldn't carry. My husband is retired so we wouldn't fall into this category, but I do agree that off duty personnel who are licensed to carry should be able to on base, especially if they live in base housing. The fact that anything can happen, even on a military base, they have the constitutional right to be able to protect themselves and their families when out and about. My opinion.
 
Never going to happen.

It's not so much that I think it's a bad idea, I don't think it's going to work because based on my experience in the Army the military holds a first line supervisors accountable for things that they have absolutely no control over.

At my first Duty Station somebody lost a weapon in the field. The working Theory was that one of the soldiers under the NCO who lost the weapon maliciously stole the weapon and disassembled it and scattered it all over the Tank Trail during a vehicle road march.

The NCO that lost the weapon was held accountable and it ended his career. But the platoon leader who could not possibly have foreseen or prevented it also lost his career.

When I was at Ft. Carson I read a bulletin about a soldier who had driven from Ft. Carson to his home in Oklahoma for a long weekend without being on pass or leave.

On his way back to Carson he fell asleep at the wheel and wrecked his car and died.

His Commander was held accountable and it ended his career.

Again, no possible way the Commander could have foreseen or prevented that without preemptively confining every soldier in his command to post for the weekend.

And as long as the Army works like that nobody's going to sign off on this and the further up the chain and the closer the person you're asking to sign off is to retirement, the less likely they are to sign off on it.
 
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HayesGreener said:
Air Force installation commanders have had authority to allow personal carry on their bases for years
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And how many of them have signed off on it?

I seem to remember late 90s or early 2000s the commander of the Alaska Command forbade everyone under his command which was all military in Alaska with the exception of the Alaskan National Guard from carrying a concealed handgun off post regardless of their Concealed Carry status and Alaska's constitutional carry laws.

Right after I got out of the army the post Commander at Fort Carson MG Guy LaBoa signed directive forbidding all soldiers on Fort Carson E4 and below from having a personally owned weapon in their quarters while they were assigned to Fort Carson.

Based on my understanding the directive applied to any E4 that was assigned to Fort Carson. It didn't matter if you were married and lived in on post quarters or you were married and lived in Colorado Springs. It didn't matter if you were married and owned your own home in Colorado Springs. If you were an E4 or below you could not own a firearm as long as you were assigned to Fort Carson.

The directive stood.
 
belladonna said:
I have read a bit about it, but I did not realize how restrictive the Army is.
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When I was in the Army they regulated how much beer you could have in your Barrack room at one time.

The rule was, one six pack of beer per person in the room.

My roommate thought it was wonderful because he was a drinker and I wasn't. So he could go buy 12 pack and leave a 12 pack in the fridge.
 
HayesGreener said:
Air Force installation commanders have had authority to allow personal carry on their bases for years
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yes and we stay at many AFB when we travel in the bus
i have never had an issue getting a permission note in advance to bring them with us.
navy bases are terrible at saying yes, as in NO NO NO
army so far is yes please let us know when you arrive and depart
please use our skeet and pistol range to support mwr
 
I don't expect to see too much change. I'm pretty sure most base commanders won't be in favor of it and will place all kinds of rules and regulations in place to control it. And there is no way I see any service member who lives in the barracks being allowed to keep firearms there. Maybe in the unit's arms room, but good luck with the armorer being available after duty hours to check in or out your firearms. I will also guarantee that NO ONE while on duty will be permitted to carry personal firearms. It would only be before or after duty hours. Maybe those that live off base might be able to have a weapon in their vehicle coming on base, but they will have to leave it secured in their vehicle or secure it in the arms room during duty hours. And that stuff about only having a six pack in the barracks...maybe for office pogs and the band. I was Infantry in the Army and the Marine Corps. Even if there was a rule, it was not enforced. Retarded rules like that were laughed at in my time. Including the time (3 and a half years) at Fort Carson. Some of the wildest parties I've been to in my life have been barracks parties! lol
 
One thing I forgot to mention in my last post. All these new regulations will be rescinded by the first new Secretary of War put in place by democrats.
 
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