testtest

i see a bleak future for gun rights up here

Old_Me

Old_Me

Emissary
there was a mass shooting on the campus of Brown University here....a prestigious Ivy League college, that is well known in the medical field, and by leaps and bounds, they are taking over nearly EVERY doctors office, labs, hospitals, pharmacies, etc,etc.... up here....basically creating a monopoly in my opinion.

they (Brown) have a HUGE amount of clout....

after this mass shooting saturday, i can only see a bleak, and a very bleak future for our gun rights up here....as it is now, we are getting 1 restriction after another, and with no help from gun rights people to stop this sh!t.

i dunno..........what i do know is that i am old, and won't be living much longer, but it is the younger gun owners i worry about, with the total loss of the 2nd Amendment rights.

and NO DAMMIT, I DO NOT VOTE FOR POLITICIANS THAT FAVOR GUN CONTROL.....so DO NOT give me any sh!t about......

"YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTED FOR"


here is a brief story, the shooter IS IN CUSTODY


www.yahoo.com

Police search Brown University after shooter kills 2 and wounds 9 on campus

A shooter dressed in black killed at least two people and wounded nine others at Brown University on Saturday during final exams on the Ivy League campus, authorities said, and police were searching for the suspect. University President Christina Paxson said she was told that 10 people who were...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
 
Well, I'm certainly a member of the "Old" generation and I'll mention something that I've noticed and may yet give you hope.

Starting back in the 60's or so I began hearing politicians in this country spouting "We will ban EVERY SINGLE GUN IN ________ " (fill in the blank yourself) but I have yet to see one pull it off. Yeah, the laws get stricter but that's to be expected in a population that keeps expanding. People find new ways to extort a tool for evil and a new law is required.

But the bottom line is that they haven't taken any of my guns. They have tried but they haven't pulled it off. To be able to do it here in this country they are going to have to change the Constitution (not "Try" nor "Whittle" nor "Threaten" but actually "Accomplish Legally"), the bedrock on which this country was founded. And if they want to see rioting and mobs in the streets then let them try that. Even the stupidest moron will be able to understand that when they do it once then can and will do it again and next time the might outlaw something they like, such as that most dangerous of all sports: GOLF! :p:p
 
We know it's not the gun, it's the thinking behind it. There will always be something to use as a weapon and you can't ban everything.

I was thinking about the 50's and 60's, when I was a kid, strangers on the street looked you in the eye, people greeted each other, smiled and people waved as they drove by. We lived in town and most folks didn't have a gun in the house, folks out in the country had a couple guns, culturally accepted for hunting and pests, having a gun for personal protecting wasn't at the top of the list. Cowboys carried guns and Roy Rogers never killed anyone.

The assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK changed gun culture in the 60's and 70's. Don't forget the Russians were coming, bomb shelters popped out in backyards and Rambo was a one-man army. A new consumer market appeared; there was a profit to be had in selling fear.

Our social fabric is torn, after 40 plus years of psychological operations by cultural and political enemies, this is our reality.
 
Ozarker said:
We know it's not the gun, it's the thinking behind it. There will always be something to use as a weapon and you can't ban everything.

I was thinking about the 50's and 60's, when I was a kid, strangers on the street looked you in the eye, people greeted each other, smiled and people waved as they drove by. We lived in town and most folks didn't have a gun in the house, folks out in the country had a couple guns, culturally accepted for hunting and pests, having a gun for personal protecting wasn't at the top of the list. Cowboys carried guns and Roy Rogers never killed anyone.

The assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK changed gun culture in the 60's and 70's. Don't forget the Russians were coming, bomb shelters popped out in backyards and Rambo was a one-man army. A new consumer market appeared; there was a profit to be had in selling fear.

Our social fabric is torn, after 40 plus years of psychological operations by cultural and political enemies, this is our reality.
Click to expand...
I was thinking about something along those lines a few weeks ago. I noticed an old 70's vintage pickup truck that had an empty gun rack in the rear window of the cab and realized that it's been decades since I saw one of those. In this part of the country they were as common as ticks on a dog but they usually:

1. Had a couple of expensive rifles or shotguns in the rack, and

2. Were frequently in a pickup truck that was parked somewhere unlocked with an owner that was unconcerned about them being stolen because that just didn't happen in our society.
 
they "got the guy of interest" in a motel in Coventry, RI, like 20-25 miles south of Providence, in the same town as the gun range i go to.

this "almost" tells me, he is NOT from RI, but maybe NY, or NJ....maybe even CT........

and if so, then this also tells me, that "many criminals" from out of state, come here and start some sh!t, then run back to mama's house.

we get thugs from up north, "the Boston area", that come down here, shoot up the malls, or crowd rush/rob the malls, and drive back up to the Boston area.

again, this is why i advocate for cameras EVERY WHERE
 
cameras everywhere? sounds like a dystopia that I don't want to live in. We were safer before the world of cameras. You want them everywhere - move to the UK. These criminals WANT to be on camera and many believe it makes their act more effective. Armed and ready citizens make a place more safe, not more state control.
 
last2brake said:
I was right along with you until that lasr sentence.

A camera tells you what happened AFTER it happened.

When seconds count, help is only fifteen minutes away, and you'll have a picture of it tomorrow.
Click to expand...

That's not necessarily correct. Not by a longshot. But if that's your only reasoning for disagreeing with cameras everywhere, you missed the point anyway.

Cameras everywhere is an absolutely terrible concept, but it looks like that is the way we are headed whether we like it or not.
 
ddeuce22 said:
Cameras everywhere is an absolutely terrible concept, but it looks like that is the way we are headed whether we like it or not
Click to expand...
If we are headed the way of accepting cameras everywhere, we should just give up ? Where will it stop ? We should just accept it ?

Does that make sense ?

The parallel of just accepting the way things are going would also apply to the growing trend of gun restrictions, too, wouldn't it ?
 
last2brake said:
If we are headed the way of accepting cameras everywhere, we should just give up ? Where will it stop ? We should just accept it ?

Does that make sense ?

The parallel of just accepting the way things are going would also apply to the growing trend of gun restrictions, too, wouldn't it ?
Click to expand...

The technology is already here, you just haven't seen it implemented on a very large scale yet. Look up Flock cameras to start. Anyone can be tracked in real-time via CCTV and LPR footage/tech on these. And they are EVERYWHERE.

The tech in VMS can now anticipate what it may perceive as threats. Weapons detection and gunshot detection, aggressive or dangerous actions, vocality, emotions, facial expressions, etc. It's preliminary in it's current stages, but it won't be long before it's refined and tuned. Cameras can recognize this and alert entities based on these triggers now. It's crazy.

Sure you can try and fight it, but when majority of it is implemented by private institutions your actions are limited if you have any at all. You can fight local government for now but the way around that is local government works with large private sector. They install Flock on private grounds, to which they have a very large footprint and local government and LEO agree to split costs with the entity as the owner. The citizens can't fight it because they are a non-profit or privately owned organization.

The more the technology gets refined, the closer we get to a Minority Report type of state. Not as exaggerated, but not that far off either. It will get worse with time.

I wouldn't put 2A rights in the same boat, but I get where you are coming from. Scary times we live in, indeed.
 
Old_Me said:
they "got the guy of interest" in a motel in Coventry, RI, like 20-25 miles south of Providence, in the same town as the gun range i go to.

this "almost" tells me, he is NOT from RI, but maybe NY, or NJ....maybe even CT........

and if so, then this also tells me, that "many criminals" from out of state, come here and start some sh!t, then run back to mama's house.

we get thugs from up north, "the Boston area", that come down here, shoot up the malls, or crowd rush/rob the malls, and drive back up to the Boston area.

again, this is why i advocate for cameras EVERY WHERE
Click to expand...
I’ll disagree on camera’s everywhere, it’s bad enough now, there out there probing into your privacy, government knows enough about you without them filming your life…..
 
Annihilator said:
I’ll disagree on camera’s everywhere, it’s bad enough now, there out there probing into your privacy, government knows enough about you without them filming your life…..
Click to expand...
PROBING...???? PROBING...???

keep that damned alien away....!!!!!!


but i believe we need cameras..

we each have our thoughts and opinions on this for certain.

no, the cameras do not prevent a crime, maybe in the movies it does.......but i'd rather have cameras as a back up to law enforcement, than nothing at all.

back in the old days, sure good ole police work caught the criminals.

these are not the old days however.

even i as old as dirt, as old as God, as old as the sun, the moon, and a roller dog at the truck stop......

will accept new technology for the good it can do......

unless i call customer support, and get Edward from India, that cannot speak slowly and i have to yell at him, TO SLOW THE F DOWN.......!!!!!!
 
Old_Me said:
PROBING...???? PROBING...???

keep that damned alien away....!!!!!!


but i believe we need cameras..

we each have our thoughts and opinions on this for certain.

no, the cameras do not prevent a crime, maybe in the movies it does.......but i'd rather have cameras as a back up to law enforcement, than nothing at all.

back in the old days, sure good ole police work caught the criminals.

these are not the old days however.

even i as old as dirt, as old as God, as old as the sun, the moon, and a roller dog at the truck stop......

will accept new technology for the good it can do......

unless i call customer support, and get Edward from India, that cannot speak slowly and i have to yell at him, TO SLOW THE F DOWN.......!!!!!!
Click to expand...
1765733153018.gif

🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top