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Is it wise to use an NFA weapon for self-defense?

Ok, here is my take on this:
- his discussion pertains to non registered NFA qualifying items.
- a person who commits a crime/misdemeanor or whatever and uses a sbr, suppressor or such that is NOT registered /NFA stamp will get the 10 or 30 yrs added.

The govt granted a permit. Device is legal. You commit a crime, the NFA device will have no bearing as its legal. What will have bearing is that you used a firearm. A legally owned firearm. Firearms always up the penalty in a crime
So he is saying that you commit a crime with a NFA approved SBR and it adds 10 yrs.. i find that hard to believe.
Now, you commit a crime with an SBR thats not registered, your getting 10 yrs added.
 
KillerFord1977 said:
Ok, here is my take on this:
- his discussion pertains to non registered NFA qualifying items.
- a person who commits a crime/misdemeanor or whatever and uses a sbr, suppressor or such that is NOT registered /NFA stamp will get the 10 or 30 yrs added.

The govt granted a permit. Device is legal. You commit a crime, the NFA device will have no bearing as its legal. What will have bearing is that you used a firearm. A legally owned firearm. Firearms always up the penalty in a crime
So he is saying that you commit a crime with a NFA approved SBR and it adds 10 yrs.. i find that hard to believe.
Now, you commit a crime with an SBR thats not registered, your getting 10 yrs added.
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Yep. More internet experts postulating ( ah jeez, there he goes again with the 4 syllable words) about things they have no clue about or supporting evidence to back up their claim. I wonder what he thinks about modifying the trigger on your carry gun ? 🙄
 
Here is the law for Florida. It would be reasonable to assume most states are the same way.
As I stated. If you have the permit, and commit a crime, its a normal offense with a firearm. If you dont have the permit, well, tack on 10+ yrs

From a Law office in Florida:

Possession of Short-Barreled Rifle​

The topic of guns is extremely explosive – literally. Everyone has an opinion on the subject with people pointing to the Second Amendment in the U.S. Constitution and people on the other side of the argument pointing to newspapers reporting of gun related deaths. The U.S. Congress has passed laws regulating guns and so has the Florida Legislature.
The regulation of short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, and machine guns goes all the way back to the National Firearms Act of 1934. These guns can be legally owned only if they are in compliance with Federal law. Florida does allow the guns to be legally owned only if they are in compliance with Federal law. So to understand Florida law, you have to understand the Federal law and one of our West Palm Beach Criminal Attorneys can help.
The prohibited guns are defined in Florida Statute 790.001. The statute defines short barreled rifles as rifles that have a barrel length less than 16 inches or rifles that has been modified or altered to an overall length less than 26 inches. Examples of how people can violate this law are when the owner has not done the requirements of Federal law and: (1) the person attached a rifle stock onto a pistol, (2) the person cut the butt of a rifle off so it’s overall length is less than 26 inches, (3) the person attached a barrel that is less than 16 inches to a rifle, (4) the person cut a rifle barrel down below 16 inches, or (5) the person just possessed the parts to create a short barreled rifle.
The Florida statute defines short barreled shotguns are shotguns with a barrel length less than 18 inches or a shotgun modified or altered to be less than 26 inches overall. If an individual does not comply with Federal law requirements, some examples of how a regular full sized shotgun can be turned into an illegal shotgun are: (1) the shotgun with a barrel length of 18 or more inches is “sawed off” to make the barrel less than 18 inches, (2) the shotgun barrel may be 18 inches or more in length but the shoulder stock was sawed off making the overall length less than 26 inches, (3) the parts to make a short barreled shotgun are in close proximity to each other, (4) the shotgun has a short barrel attached to the gun that is less than 18 inches in length, or (5) a shotgun pistol had a shoulder stock attached to it.
A machine gun is a gun that is capable of firing more than one bullet with one trigger pull. Many individuals understand that this means the “full-auto” types but it also includes the burst-fire guns as well. For example, the M16A2 has the capability of burst firing 3 rounds with only one trigger pull.
What the State Prosecutor has to Prove to Convict You of This Crime
The prosecutor has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt:
  1. You owned, had in your care, custody, or possession a short barreled rifle, short barreled shotgun, or machine gun; and
  2. The weapon was operable or could readily be made operable.
The possession of the gun can be determined by either the immediate possession of the gun with the possessor or with constructive possession. For example, if the machine gun is in the lap of person, then they immediately possess the machine gun while a person who has the machine gun locked in a closet at their home, has constructive possession of the machine gun.
Punishment for Breaking This Law
This crime is ranked as level 5 under the Florida Criminal Punishment Code. Anyone committing this crime commits a second-degree felony that is punishable up to 15 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. In addition a Florida prosecution, an individual can face a Federal prosecution because this is a felony punishable up a maximum of 10 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. See 26 U.S.C. Section 5871.
 
I was thinking more about suppressors and SBRs when I posted the video. After reading several other internet articles I found that according to some schools of thought using a registered NFA item for self-defense may put you in more legal jeopardy than using a non-NFA item depending on the circumstances and the area you live in. If a shooting is questionable or politically motivated, a person may face federal charges that carry a 30-year mandatory minimum sentence if you used an NFA item in what is deemed a crime of violence by a progressive prosecutor. However, this is probably a rare scenario and self-defense cases should be evaluated based on facts and the law, and not the type of weapon used. That said, if you have a valid reason to use an NFA item for self-defense and you can justify your action as reasonable and necessary, you may not face any additional liability than using any other type of firearm. However, folks should be aware of the potential risks and if they are concerned and so inclined then consult with an attorney who specializes in firearms law before making such a decision. To me it's a matter of whether one can vs. whether one should use an NFA item for self-defense. Personally, I try to avoid wild rollercoaster rides if I can. While this podcast is several years old it reinforces the discussion so far.

https://blog.gunassociation.org/nfa-items-for-self-defense-podcast/
 
Recusant said:
I was thinking more about suppressors and SBRs when I posted the video. After reading several other internet articles I found that according to some schools of thought using a registered NFA item for self-defense may put you in more legal jeopardy than using a non-NFA item depending on the circumstances and the area you live in. If a shooting is questionable or politically motivated, a person may face federal charges that carry a 30-year mandatory minimum sentence if you used an NFA item in what is deemed a crime of violence by a progressive prosecutor. However, this is probably a rare scenario and self-defense cases should be evaluated based on facts and the law, and not the type of weapon used. That said, if you have a valid reason to use an NFA item for self-defense and you can justify your action as reasonable and necessary, you may not face any additional liability than using any other type of firearm. However, folks should be aware of the potential risks and if they are concerned and so inclined then consult with an attorney who specializes in firearms law before making such a decision. To me it's a matter of whether one can vs. whether one should use an NFA item for self-defense. Personally, I try to avoid wild rollercoaster rides if I can. While this podcast is several years old it reinforces the discussion so far.

https://blog.gunassociation.org/nfa-items-for-self-defense-podcast/
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An NFA item used legally in SD poses no additional risk than any other Legal firearm. An SBR or suppressor use if you have a permit is not different than using an AR-15 with a 16” barrel suppressed.
If both are legal in the state, then both are legal to use within the extent of the law for SD
 
KillerFord1977 said:
An NFA item used legally in SD poses no additional risk than any other Legal firearm. An SBR or suppressor use if you have a permit is not different than using an AR-15 with a 16” barrel suppressed.
If both are legal in the state, then both are legal to use within the extent of the law for SD
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I agree and that's what I think I said: if you have a valid reason to use an NFA item for self-defense and you can justify your action as reasonable and necessary, you may not face any additional liability than using any other type of firearm.

One may not face any criminal charges, but the way a registered NFA item is perceived by a jury in a civil suit is also a concern.
 
Recusant said:
I agree and that's what I think I said: if you have a valid reason to use an NFA item for self-defense and you can justify your action as reasonable and necessary, you may not face any additional liability than using any other type of firearm.

One may not face any criminal charges, but the way a registered NFA item is perceived by a jury in a civil suit is also a concern.
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Exactly as much of a concern as an Apex trigger kit in your Glock.
 
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