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Is There Hope For Blue Cities and States? Maybe.

3L120 said:
Back in the 70s, when wine/booze was the problem, we always thought cordoning off part of downtown L.A. and installing fountains flowing with the dregs of the San Antonio Winery. Although, come to think of it, most rummies and winos were easy to deal with, not like druggies today!
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What that Skid row? I never went there but I remember hearing about it when I went to High School in Glendale. Hollywood and Vine was a heck of a experience for a high school kid in the 70s
 
Model 457 said:
I live in Portland, OR. They haven't scaled back one little bit! Here's the flow - CA does something stupid so little sister WA follows suit. Then the alphabet crew (LTQBGT+) in OR jumps on the bandwagon. The answer is simple, if you are unfortunate enough to live where a 6'3" 320# dude wearing a dress and fire engine red lipstick is behind the counter at the coffee shop, you're in a state that will be blue until the end of time. Not a damn thing you can do about it; not legally anyway. If your state is red but getting purple, find a way to put an end to that sh*t immediately! Otherwise you'll wake up one day with a lesbian governor, rampant drug use in the streets, unchecked crime, homelessness beyond belief, and a city that was once beautiful is now a disgusting breeding ground for extreme liberalism. When your city burns through police chiefs at the rate Portland does, it is far past time to question the city politics.
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It's funny you mention kind of a sandwich effect. I was born and raised in WA and the Californians coming north in the 60s and 70s debating weather to stop in OR or WA were basically told in OR to keep moving north. The first thing to get wrecked in WA was the housing market. After making a big profit from their houses in CA and while making a deal for a new house the byline for the Californian was basically "offer me more." Zing - prices started climbing. Then modest places started taking advantage of the so-called mystique of the Pacific NW and prices went up further.

And then the politics is just how you described it. WA picks up on the nonsense and OR has to do one better. I have relatives in both Eastern OR and WA and I'm not sure how long those counties can stay red.
 
Cedric said:
The first thing to get wrecked in WA was the housing market. After making a big profit from their houses in CA and while making a deal for a new house the byline for the Californian was basically "offer me more." Zing - prices started climbing. Then modest places started taking advantage of the so-called mystique of the Pacific NW and prices went up further.
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The same thing has happened here in MT with expats from CA, OR & WA being the BIG imports with alot of cash from selling their prior homes at high prices then coming here & driving prices thru the roof. Started about 3 yrs before Covid then accelerated when some thought MT was safer than other places.

Fortunately, most have been escaping the crazieness in those states and MT has turned "Redder" but at a cost to the long-term Montanans.
 
I came home from Vietnam on 7/22/69, landed in Seattle, Washington. We were met by 2-3 hundred protestors throwing all kinds of crap at us calling us every name you can think of. There was a 10-12 foot high chain link fence that prevented them from throwing straight at us gave us enough time to duck & weave. Never saw cops trying to break up the protest. From the airport we boarded GI buses went to Fort Lewis. We were met by a double line of troops on both sides of a red carpet that led to a mess hall. Man they had everything you could want to eat trainees waited on us, was really nice. You couldn't pay me enough to ever go to Washington State again.
 
rcurtner said:
I came home from Vietnam on 7/22/69, landed in Seattle, Washington. We were met by 2-3 hundred protestors throwing all kinds of crap at us calling us every name you can think of. There was a 10-12 foot high chain link fence that prevented them from throwing straight at us gave us enough time to duck & weave. Never saw cops trying to break up the protest. From the airport we boarded GI buses went to Fort Lewis. We were met by a double line of troops on both sides of a red carpet that led to a mess hall. Man they had everything you could want to eat trainees waited on us, was really nice. You couldn't pay me enough to ever go to Washington State again.
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Came back aboard the USS Durham, with 600 other Marines. Soon as we cleared the Long Beach Naval Base boundary the bus was pelted with crap. We had SPs on the bus but found out that they were not there to protect us, but the rioters. Their job was to keep us on the bus. 50 or so pissed off Marines would have done serious damage to the hippies.
 
3L120 said:
Came back aboard the USS Durham, with 600 other Marines. Soon as we cleared the Long Beach Naval Base boundary the bus was pelted with crap. We had SPs on the bus but found out that they were not there to protect us, but the rioters. Their job was to keep us on the bus. 50 or so pissed off Marines would have done serious damage to the hippies.
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Which is a shame, because a few getting their butts whupped just might have discouraged that BS. Troops go where they’re sent and do the job they were sent to do. You don’t like it, ok. But don’t blame the troops-blame the politicians that sent them. The troops are American hero’s and need to be treated as such. Friggin’ liberals would not have the freedom to protest and raise hell if GI’s didn’t pay for it with sweat, blood and life itself. I’ve NO use for the scum that attacks them!
 
Warrior9(Ret) said:
I remember my dad telling me that LA had what he considered “Off Limits” areas. East LA, Watts, Compton, and Skid Row.
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Skid Row really doesn't exist anymore. At least it didn't when I was there in 85-87. All of downtown, especially under the bridges, is full of bums. I did hang in East LA some because I had friends there. It wasn't that bad. Long Beach was a big hangout for me too. Compton and Watts I never went to.
 
Bassbob said:
Skid Row really doesn't exist anymore. At least it didn't when I was there in 85-87. All of downtown, especially under the bridges, is full of bums. I did hang in East LA some because I had friends there. It wasn't that bad. Long Beach was a big hangout for me too. Compton and Watts I never went to.
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It was there, just moved a bit East. I was the Community Relations Sgt. For Central Area. Just moved closer to the missions.
 
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