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My 10mm vs. Mountain Lion

ChanceMcCall said:
I have killed two Western cougars in my time and both with a single action Ruger in .22WRM. (Both were treed and I was on horseback.) I also live in Illinois and have encountered both bobcats and bobcat tracks despite the IDOC's pronouncements regarding bobcats in Illinois. All of that said I think a .22WRM would kill any native four legged predator we would likely encounter in the woods of Illinois except a very rare black bear.
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In my youth in the mid 70's while out late at night c o o n hunting( big c o o n hunting family) twice we treed Bobcats. Another time the dogs went on a long chase and several times treed something. Just as soon as whatever it was seen our lights it would bail out of the tree and the chase was on again. We never layed eyes on the critter but we had always suspected it was a cat, suspicion fell on a lion. We'll never know as we never actually seen it.
Fast forward to mid 90's trail cams had pictures of an actual lion in the Decatur area. One lucky farmer actually had it walk up on the porch and sat outside the sliding patio doors a few times ( they had videos) and it would watch them inside for minutes. As far as I know it never killed any farm animals or pets. It did kill many deer which many folks had found. Talk around the area was they wanted to get a bunch of people on horse back and try and flush it out to kill it. When I heard that I couldn't help but laugh, it was doing what nature designed it to do hunt and kill deer, and we have herds of deer, way too many deer. The posse never materialized and it must have moved on as the cams no longer snapped its pictures.
DNR consensus was young male cat pushed east by pressure from older lions out west or north.
If it's not killing pets, attacking people I'm in the let live and prosper camp.

Edit very strange c o o n censored
 
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In general, I love the article.

I did find a couple of points to take objection with:
1. Cougars and mountain lions are the same..
2. She made reference to “unloading on” a dangerous critter, this is the 9 mm mindset and should be worked against. Especially against dangerous game, the last thing you wanna do is empty your gun shooting in a wild frenzy “unloading on it”. Take your time, aim the gun, and hit the target as many times as it takes to stop it, in a hurry, if need be. Quick comes with practice. The point being if you have to stop and reload your weapon, you could be lunch for a bear or mountain that you missed in your hurry to “unload” on it. “Unload on it” is not just an expression, it is an attitude, one you can’t afford when “the you know what” is hitting the fan, regardless of the circumstances.
 
clintongreywolf said:
She made reference to “unloading on” a dangerous critter, this is the 9 mm mindset and should be worked against.
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The author hasn't posted here in 3 years.

I don't think that she actually meant to unload her gun at the mountain lion.



JMO but I think a mountain lion is a bear spray problem not a 10 mm or 9 mm problem.

If you even see a mountain lion in the wild you are the 1% of the one percent.
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There was a bobcat that used to live on Rockledge Ranch in Colorado Springs. I used to split my lunch with it every night when I went there to do my security checks.

I woke up one night and heard a mountain lion screaming in my backyard in central Colorado Springs and I think I saw a mountain lion running across 30th Street in Colorado Springs in the middle of the night.
 
Bridget_fabel said:
The XDM is a great option, I’m a lefty and I really like the 1911 controls.. and weight doesn’t bother me on my hip!
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I also am a lefty. That is why my first pistol was a Glock G-20 2nd Generation. No safety to fumble or mumble about
when it is time to shoot. My woods carry load is Lehigh Defense 190 grain Wide Flat Nose SOLID COPPER bullets loaded with 8.0 grains of Power Pistol powder at 1090 FPS. I feel confident but cautious in Colorado's mountains and forests.
BTW: Brookie looks like a GREAT Companion and a cutie also! I miss my critters!!! :cry:
 
We live in farm country in the Ozarks (SW Missouri) and I let the dogs out late last night in our fenced backyard. Both female Dachshunds ran back up on the porch, when they heard a loud deep growl of a big cat. Went back inside and got my Sig P228 and a flashlight but didn't see anything. Spoke with neighbor, he said that there has been something terrorizing his cattle dogs at night. Time to get the night vision scope on the rifle.
 
The CO Front Range has a very high Mountain Lion population, and a gal was recently killed by one on the north end.

Kristen Marie Kovatch, 46, of Fort Collins, was killed by a mountain lion on New Year's Day 2026 while hiking on the Crosier Mountain Trail near Glen Haven in Larimer County. This is the first fatal mountain lion attack in Colorado since 1999. Two young mountain lions were euthanized.

This video shows the location of the attack and the identification of the victim:
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Key details regarding this incident include:
  • The Incident: Hikers discovered the victim on the trail with a mountain lion nearby around 12:15 p.m. on Jan. 1.
  • Cause of Death: The coroner confirmed the cause of death was asphyxia due to external neck compression.
  • Victim: Kovatch was an avid hiker and ultramarathon runner.
  • Wildlife Response: Colorado Parks and Wildlife euthanized two juvenile mountain lions found in the area. Necropsies revealed human DNA on the paws of one of the lions.
  • Context: While mountain lions are common in Colorado, fatal attacks are extremely rare.
 
Talyn said:
The CO Front Range has a very high Mountain Lion population, and a gal was recently killed by one on the north end.

Kristen Marie Kovatch, 46, of Fort Collins, was killed by a mountain lion on New Year's Day 2026 while hiking on the Crosier Mountain Trail near Glen Haven in Larimer County. This is the first fatal mountain lion attack in Colorado since 1999. Two young mountain lions were euthanized.

This video shows the location of the attack and the identification of the victim:
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Key details regarding this incident include:
  • The Incident: Hikers discovered the victim on the trail with a mountain lion nearby around 12:15 p.m. on Jan. 1.
  • Cause of Death: The coroner confirmed the cause of death was asphyxia due to external neck compression.
  • Victim: Kovatch was an avid hiker and ultramarathon runner.
  • Wildlife Response: Colorado Parks and Wildlife euthanized two juvenile mountain lions found in the area. Necropsies revealed human DNA on the paws of one of the lions.
  • Context: While mountain lions are common in Colorado, fatal attacks are extremely rare.
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What time was she out running? Is that brought up?
If they had to euthanize juveniles, was that because the runner came upon momma and cubs?
 
Ok. I didn't actually * See* the Mountain Lion .

Saw the very fresh tracks , had tingling spider sense , and subsequently determined that Right There , there was an actively Livestock preying ML , that was intended guest of honor for trapping & poison campaign.

I was glad to be wearing. 45acp w/ 200 gr JHP .

And this was where the State DNR " officially " insists that Mountain Lions don't exist . But USDA Preditor Control is hunting them .
 
Anchorite said:
What time was she out running? Is that brought up?
If they had to euthanize juveniles, was that because the runner came upon momma and cubs?
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She was running during the middle of the day.

Folks came up on the victim with a cat standing over her, and subsequently that cat was killed later and they discovered the victim s DNA on (not in) it.

CO went on a purge to shoot of as many cats as they could find in that area.
 
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