Range Report: Battle Of The 9s, plus Glock? 5/8/24

[BassCliff]

Greetings,

After vacuuming the whole house I made a quick trip to the closer/older facility today. I didn't want to be late because Mrs. BassCliff was making one of my favorite dinners, her pork chops and mushroom gravy. Yum! Anyway, I brought a few of my 9mm pistols just because they needed cleaning and I wanted to make sure they were good and dirty. I didn't want to dirty up any of my clean pistols. I got my favorite lane #1.

We have a guest in the lane today. I rented a couple of Glocks. I get free rentals but I have to shoot their ammo. So I bought a box of whatever they had behind the counter. It happened to be the same S&B that I had brought, only theirs was 115 grain and mine was 124 grain. I started with the G17.

I decided I don't hate the sights but I do not like the finger grooves on the Gen 3.

I guess the grip angle was a little different. That first shot was way low and left. But the rest weren't too bad. I'm shooting 10-shot strings at 10 yards all day today.

Can you really call this a "glam shot"? Can a cinder block be glamorous?

Let's tape on a B-8 center and try another magazine.

Guh! I guess the honeymoon's over. It seems I need to pay attention to my support hand. I also tried out a G19 just for grins and giggles.

OK, here's the first magazine through the G19. I put 20 rounds through the G17 and 30 rounds through the G19.

Hmm, I don't know why those hits went high. Perhaps I'm overcompensating. Oh, what the hey? Since this is the first time I've ever touched Glocks I might as well document the occasion.

I'll shoot two more 10-shot strings with the G19 and then move on to my own 9mm pistols. Here's mag #2.

I was out of the B-8 targets with the yellow "X" ring so I improvised with a sticker. (I forgot to print more before I left the house.) I have plenty of the mini-USPSA silhouettes. Let's put the last 10 hits on one.

I guess with a little practice I could shoot the Glocks better, but I don't want to. I brought the Glock back to the rental counter and said, "Thank you." Here's the first magazine with my XDM Elite Precision 5.25".

I'll shoot two more strings with the XDM. Here's the next one on the 1/3 size USPSA silhouette.

Hey, that's not too bad. In case you were wondering, that A zone is about 2x3.75 inches. Gimme a line break and they're all in the A zone. For the last magazine with the XDM I used an 8" reactive circle. I was really hoping to do a little better than this.

That really is 10 hits. Seems I put a few through the same hole. Let's move on to my new love, the VP9, string #1.

I'm a bit embarrassed with that hit in the 7 ring. I know I can do better. I'm out of B-8 centers now so we'll continue with the mini-USPSA targets. String #2.

OK, eight hits in the A zone. Let's try another, string #3.

I was really riding the trigger reset on this string. That high hit happened by accident. Drat. OK, I'll shoot one more string with the VP9 after patching up the previous 8" reactive circle.

OK, not a bad "combat" group, I guess. I did let two get out of the 9 ring but put a few through the same hole again. I think I'm getting more consistent. I do enjoy practicing with this pistol.

I'll be back in the next post with the last 9mm pistol I'll be working with today. I thought I'd show my XD9 some love. Let's see how she compares to the XDM and the VP9. I'll be right back.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[BassCliff]

Hi,

I'm back! Did ya miss me? I didn't think so. Anyway, I put a few strings through some paper with my main carry gun, the XD9. Here's the first one. The black circle is about 6.28 inches, the white center is about 3.14, and the center circle is about 1.047 inches.

I think I'll use that target more. I can see it pretty good at distance but that's the only one I had today. Let's get back to the mini-USPSA target. Here's string #2 with the XD9.

OK, I've got one more magazine. I'll paste on an 8" reactive circle and try to do my best.

Oh bother. I'd like to tighten that up a little bit too. Still, that's a fist-sized group, my fist size anyway.

And that was my 9mm comparison today, G17, G19, XDM Elite Precision, VP9, and XD9. As for the Glocks, like I said, I did not hate the sights. I did not hate the trigger either. But neither of them popped my primer. Maybe I'll rent a Legion next. Until then, thanks for hanging out with me.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[TEXASforLIFE]

i like the finger grips compared to the non. when i get a pistol w/o those i get those glove type that slip on and have finger grooves. none of my smiths have them................yet, but for some reason i don't miss them like on glock, sig, sa and de's. i started with them on a 629 and have been a favorite ever since! glock plain sites are not my favorite by any means and even the adjustable 1's are less favorable...........just more plastic. still, you had a good range day and i can't wait for school to be over, but 2 of the 3 kids left in school will go almost every day for either band or football (against uil rules of course that only allow 3 weeks before the start of school for activities).

 

[belladonna]

Nice shooting Cliff! So the Glocks weren’t for you? Looks like they shoot fine. I’m going to try one out next time I can get to the range. I’ve been dry firing the HKs primarily, and some of those drills aren’t easy.

 

[Bassbob]

Nice shootin' Cliffy.

 

[PAGunGuy]

I have a G17. Just shot it last Saturday. Definitely a combat gun, but not a bullseye shooter. I don't love the grip angle or the finger grooves (it's a Gen 4) but I do like it better than my duty G45 that doesn't have the grooves. Guessing it's the longer slide?

I also had a XD9 and I definitely shot that better than Glocks. I shouldn't have sold it. I sold it when I got the Hellcat Pro, but I regret it. Was a great gun with the best striker fire trigger I have ever shot

 

[mikep]

Greetings,

After vacuuming the whole house I made a quick trip to the closer/older facility today. I didn't want to be late because Mrs. BassCliff was making one of my favorite dinners, her pork chops and mushroom gravy. Yum! Anyway, I brought a few of my 9mm pistols just because they needed cleaning and I wanted to make sure they were good and dirty. I didn't want to dirty up any of my clean pistols. I got my favorite lane #1.

We have a guest in the lane today. I rented a couple of Glocks. I get free rentals but I have to shoot their ammo. So I bought a box of whatever they had behind the counter. It happened to be the same S&B that I had brought, only theirs was 115 grain and mine was 124 grain. I started with the G17.

I decided I don't hate the sights but I do not like the finger grooves on the Gen 3.

I guess the grip angle was a little different. That first shot was way low and left. But the rest weren't too bad. I'm shooting 10-shot strings at 10 yards all day today.

Can you really call this a "glam shot"? Can a cinder block be glamorous?

Let's tape on a B-8 center and try another magazine.

Guh! I guess the honeymoon's over. It seems I need to pay attention to my support hand. I also tried out a G19 just for grins and giggles.

OK, here's the first magazine through the G19. I put 20 rounds through the G17 and 30 rounds through the G19.

Hmm, I don't know why those hits went high. Perhaps I'm overcompensating. Oh, what the hey? Since this is the first time I've ever touched Glocks I might as well document the occasion.

I'll shoot two more 10-shot strings with the G19 and then move on to my own 9mm pistols. Here's mag #2.

I was out of the B-8 targets with the yellow "X" ring so I improvised with a sticker. (I forgot to print more before I left the house.) I have plenty of the mini-USPSA silhouettes. Let's put the last 10 hits on one.

I guess with a little practice I could shoot the Glocks better, but I don't want to. I brought the Glock back to the rental counter and said, "Thank you." Here's the first magazine with my XDM Elite Precision 5.25".

I'll shoot two more strings with the XDM. Here's the next one on the 1/3 size USPSA silhouette.

Hey, that's not too bad. In case you were wondering, that A zone is about 2x3.75 inches. Gimme a line break and they're all in the A zone. For the last magazine with the XDM I used an 8" reactive circle. I was really hoping to do a little better than this.

That really is 10 hits. Seems I put a few through the same hole. Let's move on to my new love, the VP9, string #1.

I'm a bit embarrassed with that hit in the 7 ring. I know I can do better. I'm out of B-8 centers now so we'll continue with the mini-USPSA targets. String #2.

OK, eight hits in the A zone. Let's try another, string #3.

I was really riding the trigger reset on this string. That high hit happened by accident. Drat. OK, I'll shoot one more string with the VP9 after patching up the previous 8" reactive circle.

OK, not a bad "combat" group, I guess. I did let two get out of the 9 ring but put a few through the same hole again. I think I'm getting more consistent. I do enjoy practicing with this pistol.

I'll be back in the next post with the last 9mm pistol I'll be working with today. I thought I'd show my XD9 some love. Let's see how she compares to the XDM and the VP9. I'll be right back.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

you had me at pork chops and mushroom gravy....

 

[youngolddude]

I have never held or shot a Glock as they don't appeal to me. Not a fan of finger grooves. The only one I have that has them is my 629 that has finger groove suggestions. Good shooting.

 

[Annihilator]

I have a G17. Just shot it last Saturday. Definitely a combat gun, but not a bullseye shooter. I don't love the grip angle or the finger grooves (it's a Gen 4) but I do like it better than my duty G45 that doesn't have the grooves. Guessing it's the longer slide?

I also had a XD9 and I definitely shot that better than Glocks. I shouldn't have sold it. I sold it when I got the Hellcat Pro, but I regret it. Was a great gun with the best striker fire trigger I have ever shot

 

[rcurtner]

Hi,

I'm back! Did ya miss me? I didn't think so. Anyway, I put a few strings through some paper with my main carry gun, the XD9. Here's the first one. The black circle is about 6.28 inches, the white center is about 3.14, and the center circle is about 1.047 inches.

I think I'll use that target more. I can see it pretty good at distance but that's the only one I had today. Let's get back to the mini-USPSA target. Here's string #2 with the XD9.

OK, I've got one more magazine. I'll paste on an 8" reactive circle and try to do my best.

Oh bother. I'd like to tighten that up a little bit too. Still, that's a fist-sized group, my fist size anyway.

And that was my 9mm comparison today, G17, G19, XDM Elite Precision, VP9, and XD9. As for the Glocks, like I said, I did not hate the sights. I did not hate the trigger either. But neither of them popped my primer. Maybe I'll rent a Legion next. Until then, thanks for hanging out with me.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Nice shooting. Wish I could shoot that well with iron sights. Shot bullseye for many years and was very good but medical issues and getting older have really impacted my shooting. Going to red dots has improved my shooting beyond what I thought possible. Using the MantisX training system for dry & live fire has helped me identify and correct errors I was making.

 

[Annihilator]

Greetings,

After vacuuming the whole house I made a quick trip to the closer/older facility today. I didn't want to be late because Mrs. BassCliff was making one of my favorite dinners, her pork chops and mushroom gravy. Yum! Anyway, I brought a few of my 9mm pistols just because they needed cleaning and I wanted to make sure they were good and dirty. I didn't want to dirty up any of my clean pistols. I got my favorite lane #1.

We have a guest in the lane today. I rented a couple of Glocks. I get free rentals but I have to shoot their ammo. So I bought a box of whatever they had behind the counter. It happened to be the same S&B that I had brought, only theirs was 115 grain and mine was 124 grain. I started with the G17.

I decided I don't hate the sights but I do not like the finger grooves on the Gen 3.

I guess the grip angle was a little different. That first shot was way low and left. But the rest weren't too bad. I'm shooting 10-shot strings at 10 yards all day today.

Can you really call this a "glam shot"? Can a cinder block be glamorous?

Let's tape on a B-8 center and try another magazine.

Guh! I guess the honeymoon's over. It seems I need to pay attention to my support hand. I also tried out a G19 just for grins and giggles.

OK, here's the first magazine through the G19. I put 20 rounds through the G17 and 30 rounds through the G19.

Hmm, I don't know why those hits went high. Perhaps I'm overcompensating. Oh, what the hey? Since this is the first time I've ever touched Glocks I might as well document the occasion.

I'll shoot two more 10-shot strings with the G19 and then move on to my own 9mm pistols. Here's mag #2.

I was out of the B-8 targets with the yellow "X" ring so I improvised with a sticker. (I forgot to print more before I left the house.) I have plenty of the mini-USPSA silhouettes. Let's put the last 10 hits on one.

I guess with a little practice I could shoot the Glocks better, but I don't want to. I brought the Glock back to the rental counter and said, "Thank you." Here's the first magazine with my XDM Elite Precision 5.25".

I'll shoot two more strings with the XDM. Here's the next one on the 1/3 size USPSA silhouette.

Hey, that's not too bad. In case you were wondering, that A zone is about 2x3.75 inches. Gimme a line break and they're all in the A zone. For the last magazine with the XDM I used an 8" reactive circle. I was really hoping to do a little better than this.

That really is 10 hits. Seems I put a few through the same hole. Let's move on to my new love, the VP9, string #1.

I'm a bit embarrassed with that hit in the 7 ring. I know I can do better. I'm out of B-8 centers now so we'll continue with the mini-USPSA targets. String #2.

OK, eight hits in the A zone. Let's try another, string #3.

I was really riding the trigger reset on this string. That high hit happened by accident. Drat. OK, I'll shoot one more string with the VP9 after patching up the previous 8" reactive circle.

OK, not a bad "combat" group, I guess. I did let two get out of the 9 ring but put a few through the same hole again. I think I'm getting more consistent. I do enjoy practicing with this pistol.

I'll be back in the next post with the last 9mm pistol I'll be working with today. I thought I'd show my XD9 some love. Let's see how she compares to the XDM and the VP9. I'll be right back.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

Good shooting again sir, I just found out I do have an indoor range close to me instead of going 120 miles to Columbus, Ohio, this one is less the a half hour from me, $10.00 an hour, $50.00 a month membership, FMJ, no magnums, going to give this a try

 

[Annihilator]

Greetings,

After vacuuming the whole house I made a quick trip to the closer/older facility today. I didn't want to be late because Mrs. BassCliff was making one of my favorite dinners, her pork chops and mushroom gravy. Yum! Anyway, I brought a few of my 9mm pistols just because they needed cleaning and I wanted to make sure they were good and dirty. I didn't want to dirty up any of my clean pistols. I got my favorite lane #1.

We have a guest in the lane today. I rented a couple of Glocks. I get free rentals but I have to shoot their ammo. So I bought a box of whatever they had behind the counter. It happened to be the same S&B that I had brought, only theirs was 115 grain and mine was 124 grain. I started with the G17.

I decided I don't hate the sights but I do not like the finger grooves on the Gen 3.

I guess the grip angle was a little different. That first shot was way low and left. But the rest weren't too bad. I'm shooting 10-shot strings at 10 yards all day today.

Can you really call this a "glam shot"? Can a cinder block be glamorous?

Let's tape on a B-8 center and try another magazine.

Guh! I guess the honeymoon's over. It seems I need to pay attention to my support hand. I also tried out a G19 just for grins and giggles.

OK, here's the first magazine through the G19. I put 20 rounds through the G17 and 30 rounds through the G19.

Hmm, I don't know why those hits went high. Perhaps I'm overcompensating. Oh, what the hey? Since this is the first time I've ever touched Glocks I might as well document the occasion.

I'll shoot two more 10-shot strings with the G19 and then move on to my own 9mm pistols. Here's mag #2.

I was out of the B-8 targets with the yellow "X" ring so I improvised with a sticker. (I forgot to print more before I left the house.) I have plenty of the mini-USPSA silhouettes. Let's put the last 10 hits on one.

I guess with a little practice I could shoot the Glocks better, but I don't want to. I brought the Glock back to the rental counter and said, "Thank you." Here's the first magazine with my XDM Elite Precision 5.25".

I'll shoot two more strings with the XDM. Here's the next one on the 1/3 size USPSA silhouette.

Hey, that's not too bad. In case you were wondering, that A zone is about 2x3.75 inches. Gimme a line break and they're all in the A zone. For the last magazine with the XDM I used an 8" reactive circle. I was really hoping to do a little better than this.

That really is 10 hits. Seems I put a few through the same hole. Let's move on to my new love, the VP9, string #1.

I'm a bit embarrassed with that hit in the 7 ring. I know I can do better. I'm out of B-8 centers now so we'll continue with the mini-USPSA targets. String #2.

OK, eight hits in the A zone. Let's try another, string #3.

I was really riding the trigger reset on this string. That high hit happened by accident. Drat. OK, I'll shoot one more string with the VP9 after patching up the previous 8" reactive circle.

OK, not a bad "combat" group, I guess. I did let two get out of the 9 ring but put a few through the same hole again. I think I'm getting more consistent. I do enjoy practicing with this pistol.

I'll be back in the next post with the last 9mm pistol I'll be working with today. I thought I'd show my XD9 some love. Let's see how she compares to the XDM and the VP9. I'll be right back.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

I have both the G19 and G17, I can shoot the G17 far better then the G19, I prefer the larger grip of the G17, fits me better as does my G34…..just a FYI