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Red Dot Float

Had one on a .22 Buckmark that let me shoot it like a rifle-nice squirrel gun. Have one on a FN Reflex-shoots very well. That said, I can still put bullet on steel faster with the irons on my EMP 9, my Sig .45 1911, and my Bond Bullpup than I can with the Dot equipped pistols. I’ve got 500 rounds + through the Reflex with the dot but I’m still slow than with irons-I “may” be a tad more accurate with the dot (or maybe I’m just shooting slower so that’s why. In any event I’m not yet carrying a dot equipped pistols for serious work
 
Phaser said:
So, regardless of the brand or cost of RD optic chosen...they all will replicate the shooters (shake) impulses? Seems the R and D guys would have come up with a way to internally steady the optic...slow down the sensitivity if you will.
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It’s all about you and confidence with the red dot. If you use it enough you will find that you can hold it extremely steady. Most of this has to do with controlled breathing. As you mentioned though, when the dot is on the target, let it fly, but of course you have to do this without flinching or jerking the trigger. For defensive distances you just want to get the dot on target. For accuracy you want to be able to hold the dot steady. I run dots almost exclusively and can hold the dot steady as long as I need to. The thing to real size is when you are looking at a target 5 yds away, the dot seems quite easy to stabilize. At 25 it dances much more. But are you moving the gun more between 5 and 25? No, you are just perceiving it differently. On a recent red dot course I did I was able to draw from a holster and hit an 8 inch target at 25 yds in 1.7 seconds.
 
A spot on analogy. Well, not interested in speed...I am interested in acquiring the dot w/o moving the gun around awkwardly. Again, simply presenting the muzzle downrange and seeing the dot each and every time. Truthfully, I don't shoot enough to develop to make this happen...so I digress.
 
There is a learning curve with the dot. Your hold and sighting paradigm is completely different. You are not focused on the sights or the dot, you are focusing on the target. Simply overlay the dot on the target and shoot. As far as movement, there is a natural arc of movement described by your muzzle no matter how firmly you hold the pistol. (Unless you are in a Ransom Rest). If you were to put a pencil in the barrel and stand where the pencil touches the target, your muzzle would draw a continuous figure 8. The figure 8 becomes smaller as you practice and develop your technique and muscles, and your groups become smaller, but an arc of movement will always be there. The same thing occurs with your front sight with irons, you just don't notice it as much. The dot optic simply accentuates visibility of the arc of movement, but with good hold control and trigger management, you will hit the target.

In my own experience, once I got presentation down right, I believe I am faster with the dot with good accuracy, but I am a bit more precise with irons.
 
HayesGreener said:
There is a learning curve with the dot. Your hold and sighting paradigm is completely different. You are not focused on the sights or the dot, you are focusing on the target. Simply overlay the dot on the target and shoot. As far as movement, there is a natural arc of movement described by your muzzle no matter how firmly you hold the pistol. (Unless you are in a Ransom Rest). If you were to put a pencil in the barrel and stand where the pencil touches the target, your muzzle would draw a continuous figure 8. The figure 8 becomes smaller as you practice and develop your technique and muscles, and your groups become smaller, but an arc of movement will always be there. The same thing occurs with your front sight with irons, you just don't notice it as much. The dot optic simply accentuates visibility of the arc of movement, but with good hold control and trigger management, you will hit the target.

In my own experience, once I got presentation down right, I believe I am faster with the dot with good accuracy, but I am a bit more precise with irons.
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Just like I learned it in 1976…minus the mention of dots of course 😃!
 
Phaser said:
A spot on analogy. Well, not interested in speed...I am interested in acquiring the dot w/o moving the gun around awkwardly. Again, simply presenting the muzzle downrange and seeing the dot each and every time. Truthfully, I don't shoot enough to develop to make this happen...so I digress.
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one way to make it easier to acquire the dot is to bring the dot level with your eye and not bring your head down to the dot. Practice at home with a non loaded, no mag, empty chambered gun.
Repetition with the dot over and over will get you where the dot just comes natural to pick up quickly.
 
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