Sometimes one shot won't do the job

[trader]

The officers did what was needed. Some people criticize police for "mag dumps", yet here it seems obvious why. Note the number of rounds used. https://nypost.com/2025/05/27/us-ne...efore-hes-shot-dead-in-wild-series-of-events/

 

[Biggfoot44]

But is the alligator ok , after eating that drug laden arm ?

 

[trader]

But is the alligator ok , after eating that drug laden arm ?

reportedly in high spirits.

 

[mikep]

wow. there was a lot packed into that event.

 

[az4783054]

dope

 

[belladonna]

The officers did what was needed. Some people criticize police for "mag dumps", yet here it seems obvious why. Note the number of rounds used. https://nypost.com/2025/05/27/us-ne...efore-hes-shot-dead-in-wild-series-of-events/

Whoa…you just can’t make this stuff up.

 

[HayesGreener]

Sheriff Judd is my hero.

 

[Recusant]

Maybe he'll get nominated for a Darwin Award. I think he meets the criteria.

 

[KillerFord1977]

All we are missing is a K9 tearing into him for a Trifecta !

 

[jumpinjoe]

Sheriff Judd is my hero.

YESSIREE - BOB!

 

[USMC6094]

I guess it depends on the agency, but when I was a patrol officer, we were taught to shoot until the threat no longer existed.
And you don't shoot to wound, you shoot to kill.

 

[The Night Rider]

And you don't shoot to wound, you shoot to kill.

I was always taught very specifically that you are shooting to stop the threat. You're not trying to kill anybody but if as a result of you defending yourself they die that's regrettable but necessary

 

[HayesGreener]

It's a game of semantics. Intentionally applying lethal force is lethal force intentionally applied. Claiming you had no intent to kill when you shot him multiple times center mass is a ludicrous argument. I think it is a concept some PR guy came up with.

Here is the line of questioning:

Officer, have you attended police firearms training?

Yes

The targets used in that training, do they represent a human form?

Yes

What part of the target were you taught to shoot at?

Center mass

Center mass. That's the place where the heart, lungs, spinal cord, intestines are, correct?

Were you taught to shoot the target center mass two or more times?

Yes

Is it likely a person shot multiple times center mass will die?

Yes

Did you intend to kill Mr. _____?

No

Did you intentionally shoot Mr. ____ multiple times center mass?

Yes

And so on. When you shoot, it is lethal force intentionally applied, period. Whether the person lives or dies is often luck of the draw. Claiming I was just trying to stop the threat and didn't mean to kill him makes no sense in the real world.

 

[trader]

lawyers, the only profession where the more of them there is, the more of them is needed.

 

[Bassbob]

lawyers, the only profession where the more of them there is, the more of them is needed.

If it wasn't for lawyers, we wouldn't even need lawyers.

 

[Bassbob]

It's a game of semantics. Intentionally applying lethal force is lethal force intentionally applied. Claiming you had no intent to kill when you shot him multiple times center mass is a ludicrous argument. I think it is a concept some PR guy came up with.

Here is the line of questioning:

Officer, have you attended police firearms training?

Yes

The targets used in that training, do they represent a human form?

Yes

What part of the target were you taught to shoot at?

Center mass

Center mass. That's the place where the heart, lungs, spinal cord, intestines are, correct?

Were you taught to shoot the target center mass two or more times?

Yes

Is it likely a person shot multiple times center mass will die?

Yes

Did you intend to kill Mr. _____?

No

Did you intentionally shoot Mr. ____ multiple times center mass?

Yes

And so on. When you shoot, it is lethal force intentionally applied, period. Whether the person lives or dies is often luck of the draw. Claiming I was just trying to stop the threat and didn't mean to kill him makes no sense in the real world.

That's very true. It's also true though if you answer " I did what any reasonable person would think necessary to stop the threat as quickly as possible. "

 

[3L120]

I guess it depends on the agency, but when I was a patrol officer, we were taught to shoot until the threat no longer existed.
And you don't shoot to wound, you shoot to kill.

NO…you shoot to stop!! Saying you were taught to shoot to kill will end up in really bad ju-ju.

 

[KillerFord1977]

It's a game of semantics. Intentionally applying lethal force is lethal force intentionally applied. Claiming you had no intent to kill when you shot him multiple times center mass is a ludicrous argument. I think it is a concept some PR guy came up with.

Here is the line of questioning:

Officer, have you attended police firearms training?

Yes

The targets used in that training, do they represent a human form?

Yes

What part of the target were you taught to shoot at?

Center mass

Center mass. That's the place where the heart, lungs, spinal cord, intestines are, correct?

Were you taught to shoot the target center mass two or more times?

Yes

Is it likely a person shot multiple times center mass will die?

Yes

Did you intend to kill Mr. _____?

No

Did you intentionally shoot Mr. ____ multiple times center mass?

Yes

And so on. When you shoot, it is lethal force intentionally applied, period. Whether the person lives or dies is often luck of the draw. Claiming I was just trying to stop the threat and didn't mean to kill him makes no sense in the real world.

That's very true. It's also true though if you answer " I did what any reasonable person would think necessary to stop the threat as quickly as possible. "

How about if the meathead didnt try to use deadly force on an officer, he’d still be alive having a Big Mac.

I have zero sympathy for those that use true deadly intentions to try to kill an officer and end up dead.

 

[Bassbob]

How about if the meathead didnt try to use deadly force on an officer, he’d still be alive having a Big Mac.

I have zero sympathy for those that use true deadly intentions to try to kill an officer and end up dead.

Me too. Also those who use deadly intentions on regular people that don't have it coming.

 

[KillerFord1977]

Me too. Also those who use deadly intentions on regular people that don't have it coming.

Yep… all that “blindside” the elderly crap going on walking down the street.

Want to see 5 old folks with socks full of rocks get them while we hold them down