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I am considering buying a Springfield Armory CO2 powered rifle or pistol which fire steel .177 BBs or .177 pellets and interested to see if any members have experience with their accuracy, reliability, etc. According to SA, the pistols have an "18 rd" capacity and the rifles have a "40 rd" capacity.

The exclusive use would be to deter javelina that come onto our acreage. I don't want to have to dispatch them, just discourage them. They're very aggressive in the spring and fall with infants. Some fool neighbors think the animals are 'cute' and leave dog food out for them. A neighbor has been repeatedly chased by a large pack of javelina. Another neighbors dog was terribly gored by javelina. The largest pack we've personally encountered is 8-10 with adults and multiple infants.

I can usually discourage them with rocks, dirt and noise. My wife and I were walking our former blind Rottie a couple of years ago when an aggressive female advanced towards us to within 10 yards. I directed my wife to take the Rottie and put distance between them and the animal while I distracted it. Unfortunately, it continued to advance to within 5 yards towards me and I shot it once with a 9mm. AZ G&F came out and determined I was justified under AZ statutes, which I was already familiar with.
 
I have one of the SA C02 1911 pistols. Its ok for plinking in the yard. But frankly, it isn't strong enough to penetrate a plastic drink bottle. I doubt a Javalina would even notice. :rolleyes:
No experience with the rifles.
If I had a Javalina problem, I'd just kill a few and leave them to rot. The others would take notice. ;)
 
Grayfox said:
I have one of the SA C02 1911 pistols. Its ok for plinking in the yard. But frankly, it isn't strong enough to penetrate a plastic drink bottle. I doubt a Javalina would even notice. :rolleyes:
No experience with the rifles.
If I had a Javalina problem, I'd just kill a few and leave them to rot. The others would take notice. ;)
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I have the same SA MilSpec 1911 he does, and can confirm it would be just about useless against javalina. I've killed squirrels in my backyard with a .22 spring piston air rifle, and I can tell you the CO2 pistol would NOT kill a squirrel. It WOULD run one off, I'm sure, but a squirrel isn't a javalina.

Dunno what SA "CO2" rifle you're talking about. The only SA air rifles I know of are the M1A and the M1 Carbine. The M1A is a single-shot spring piston underlever pellet rifle (no BBs) available in either .22 or .177 (no BBs). I have the .22 version. It's about as powerful as the Mendoza .22 pellet rifle I used on the squirrels--similar in velocity to a .22 Short but with only half the "throw weight"--15 grains vs 29 grains. This would definitely get your javalina's attention but I can't guarantee it would run one off. It might, might not. The drawback to the M1A is that loading it is a major big deal--it's almost as complicated as a muzzle-loader. The gun is reliable and accurate and just hella fun to shoot--it's fantastic for offhand rifle shooting practice, as the trigger feels VERY much like a real M14/M1A's.

The SA M1 Carbine is a fantastic toy. It looks and feels and operates exactly like a real M1 Carbine. The magazine holds 15 BBs which you can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger, and you can get three mags' worth on one C02 cartridge. It's very reliable and accurate and powerful enough for backyard plinking. I think velocity runs around 400 fps. It does NOT shoot .177 pellets, just the BBs. Hitting a javelina with multiple BBs at @ 400 fps might run one off, I don't know. Might be worth a try. Even if it doesn't, you'd still have a hella fun plinker/training tool in the thing. That's what I use mine for.

Hope this information was helpful.

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I wouldn't worry about "leaking seals." First, the seal materials seem to be much improved in recent years. I've bought a buttload of these modern CO2/BB replicas over the last three years and have shot them extensively and have never experienced a leaking seal on any of them. Second, the major seal on all of these is in the magazine, not in the gun itself. If it ever DOES leak, it can be cured by simply replacing the magazine.

I've left full (well, partially discharged) CO2 cartridges in these guns for up to weeks at a time with no leakage.

If you want the SA 1911, buy it with confidence and shoot it in good health. I can't promise it will "run off" your javelinas, but I CAN promise that you will have a buttload of fun with it. I'd think the M1 Carbine would have a better chance of running off your javelinas.

Here's an excellent review of the SA M1 Carbine:


Here's one of the SA Mil-Spec

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Let's Look At The Springfield Armory 1911 Mil-Spec BB Pistol

The Springfield Armory 1911 Mil-Spec BB Pistol is a strong seller for Air Venturi. When you take a close look, it's easy to discover why!
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Here's another one with velocity figures. As you can see, these are all closer to 300 fps and the M1 Carbine is closer to 400 fps.

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What's The Best 1911 BB Pistol in 2022? - Hard Air Magazine

So what's the best 1911 BB pistol in 2022? All four models featured in this review fit the bill, it largely depends on the style you prefer!
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az4783054 said:
Thanks for those articles...just when I was about to start researching sling shots.:LOL:
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That might actually be a very cost-effective solution to your problem, depending on range. How far away are these javalinas you want to run off?
 
If we see them at about 25 yards, I start thinking about what to do if they decide to get aggressive. Javelina are generally shy and will retreat unless they're protecting infants. Anything less than that I go into the mindset that I will defend my wife, our dog and myself if it gets any closer. As I described above, in the past an aggressive female got to close and I had to dispatch it.

Anything more than that gives us the chance to go another route, watching our backs.
 
Okay, can you hit a javelina at 25 yards with, say, a marble, or similar-sized rock? I'd think something like that launched from one of those "wrist rocket" braced slingshots would give a javelina the idea that he/she had urgent bidness in the other direction. I'd think you wouldn't have to do that too many times before word got around in Javalinastan to "Stay away from that loco gringo with the pocket full of rocks; he'll HURT you! Esta LOCO! MUY LOCO!" :eek:
 
Snake45 said:
Okay, can you hit a javelina at 25 yards with, say, a marble, or similar-sized rock? I'd think something like that launched from one of those "wrist rocket" braced slingshots would give a javelina the idea that he/she had urgent bidness in the other direction. I'd think you wouldn't have to do that too many times before word got around in Javalinastan to "Stay away from that loco gringo with the pocket full of rocks; he'll HURT you! Esta LOCO! MUY LOCO!" :eek:
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This. I think the only common air/pellet guns that would get a pigs attention would be pushing a pellet at 100 fps or so. There are high powered ones that would in fact take a Javelina but those are heavy caliber, powerful pieces (and $$$)
 
The all metal SA 1911 CO2 powered pistols are 320fps, the rifles are 425fps. The XD models are 380fps with 18rd capacity. With the 12g cartridges, a 1911 or a rifle holds 18/15 rounds capacity. The velocity would decrease with each trigger press and the "blow back action" feature. I would prefer pellets over BBs, but only one of their rifle models can handle a pellet.

The pistols and rifles are on sale at the SA store, I provided the link above. Some of them are made by Air Venturi, a well known air gun manufacturer.
 
I have a couple of Sig PCP rifles, pretty powerful for belt fed 22 caliber pellet gun. not as powerful as some of the PCP rifles but they will take down squirrels and other critters and will shoot 30 times fast as you can pull the trigger.
 
Kinda of a long story how i eneded up with two of them but i did. you will need a pump and it has to pump up to 4000 psi. a tire pump won't do it.

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