Trying this whole optic thing.

[Bassbob]

Simon, I have to disagree. There is not an extra step, you are acquiring the iron sights and your brain hands off automatically. You just treat the firearm with a dot sight the same way as a regular firearm...if you have suppressor height sights it works. If you have lower sights it does not. My local Police Department has approved dots because I have been friends with the lead SWAT trainer since Junior High. I gave him my Glock 19/26 as a proof of concept gun. They had tried non suppressor height sights and mounting plates before and discounted the concept. But a low mount and slightly higher sights are the key. Suarez figured this out in the late 90's. Trust us. It works. If you are ever down in Missouri, say for the Bianchi Cup in a couple weeks, post on the forum and I will gladly take you or anyone else on the Forum out to try it. The joys of retirement!

What part of Missouri ?

To the point, I pretty much agree with you in the sense that for me it isn't an extra step. But I have relentlessly trained myself to bring my gun up to my eye with the sight picture already in place. I know and my muscles know exactly what orientation my wrist and hands need to be in when presenting the gun. So while I am not actively trying to line up my iron sights, they are aligned nonetheless. And my dot is right where I expect it to be. I am not paying attention to my sights.


I also am not a fan of mounting plates and avoid them as much as I can, although my VP9 is now sporting an optic cut slide with a mounting plate and suppressor height sights, which is a must on any slide with a plate on it. I would very much like to switch it out to an SCS and get rid of the plate, but I am too cheap and lazy to swap out the suppressor height sights for my preferred TFX Pros. And I really don't carry that gun much anymore anyway. I'm actually considering buying a long slide/barrel for it.

 

[Winchester67]

Columbia Missouri! Home range Chapman Academy. The birthplace of all sorts of combat shooting. Ray Chapman, sadly, has passed but a lot of us are trying to carry on. https://www.facebook.com/p/Chapman-Academy-of-Practical-Shooting-100067341944764/ But it is an open invitation! If you are in the area Bassbob, we will get to shooting. (The spin is to take your wife shopping here, then you and I go to the range!) Just saying, Eric

 

[Bassbob]

Columbia Missouri! Home range Chapman Academy. The birthplace of all sorts of combat shooting. Ray Chapman, sadly, has passed but a lot of us are trying to carry on. https://www.facebook.com/p/Chapman-Academy-of-Practical-Shooting-100067341944764/ But it is an open invitation! If you are in the area Bassbob, we will get to shooting. (The spin is to take your wife shopping here, then you and I go to the range!) Just saying, Eric

I will look into it. No need to take the wife shopping, she has a lifelong friend and her husband who moved to a farm up there about 10 years ago. We haven't seen them in a long time and she may be game for a day trip.