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Why The Emphasis On Weather Or Not The Gun Is "LOADED"?

The Night Rider

The Night Rider

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I just watched Blue Bloods season 14 episode 12, "Without Fear or Favor". Without going into the whole episode a retired cop gets into a verbal altercation with somebody in a bar and pulls out his handgun essentially to intimidate the guy into backing down. (In Colorado that would be aggravated menacing.)

So of course Frank Reagan gets involved, he calls the guy in and while they're debriefing the incident Baker asked the cop something along the lines of "Why did you threaten this guy with a Loaded gun?" She emphasized that the gun was loaded as if that was somehow more serious than if he had threatened the guy with an unloaded gun.

I also notice that when incidents like this are reported on the news (Local andnational), In Real Life great emphasis is placed on whether or not the gun was loaded. Actually, you never hear a reporter say that somebody was threatened with an "unloaded" gun.

So I really think as I'm asking this, the question is answering itself. I think to the untrained ear it sounds much more dramatic and scary to say that somebody was threatened with a loaded gun or that the criminal was caught with a loaded gun or that a loaded gun was found in the car then it would be to just say a gun was found in the car
 
say if it was a semi-auto nothing in the chamber and no mag inserted, but the mag was full.......they would still state it was a loaded gun in the media! it could be in a locked case and they would still state a loaded weapon/gun was found at the scene. they must go by what my uncle would say, "don't let the truth get in the way of a good story".
 
Opportunity, capability, intent.

I would guess (in some jurisdictions) if the gun was unloaded, it might be considered no opportunity or capability. However, I would make the argument that if there is a magazine on the perp (auto), or appropriate rounds on the perp (revolver), there is more than enough opportunity and capability.

I believe there are different levels of felonies for loaded or unloaded as well, again, based on jurisdictions.
 
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You’re carrying a gun… You have no ammunition with you…. 🤔
If I’m carrying a handgun on my person and, unless it’s not authorized, I’ll have an ammunition carrier ( magazine or speed strip ) with me.
Now, depending on the situation and environment is a deciding factor for if the handgun is loaded or not.
 
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Indiana doesn’t have a brandishing law so you can draw and be at low ready and you’re good. Indiana does have a pointing a firearm law with loaded being a felony and unloaded being a misdemeanor (How you prove or disprove one or the other I’m not sure)

People would do themselves a big favor in learning their law and also learning a firearm alone will not ward off evil by itself. Your not going to threaten yourself out of stuff with a lot of seasoned thugs.

Why everyone should add some type of OC option most interactions don’t rise to the severity of deadly force being “reasonable”

On the difference of loaded vs unloaded my biggest frustration is a large number of people treat guns like they are loaded then when they think they are nit rule 1 goes out the window as well as rule 2 and tv’s, wall, pets and people get accidentally shot!
 
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The Night Rider said:
I just watched Blue Bloods season 14 episode 12, "Without Fear or Favor". Without going into the whole episode a retired cop gets into a verbal altercation with somebody in a bar and pulls out his handgun essentially to intimidate the guy into backing down. (In Colorado that would be aggravated menacing.)

So of course Frank Reagan gets involved, he calls the guy in and while they're debriefing the incident Baker asked the cop something along the lines of "Why did you threaten this guy with a Loaded gun?" She emphasized that the gun was loaded as if that was somehow more serious than if he had threatened the guy with an unloaded gun.

I also notice that when incidents like this are reported on the news (Local andnational), In Real Life great emphasis is placed on whether or not the gun was loaded. Actually, you never hear a reporter say that somebody was threatened with an "unloaded" gun.

So I really think as I'm asking this, the question is answering itself. I think to the untrained ear it sounds much more dramatic and scary to say that somebody was threatened with a loaded gun or that the criminal was caught with a loaded gun or that a loaded gun was found in the car then it would be to just say a gun was found in the car
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Weather……🤔🤔
should be whether…..
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ECS686 said:
YOUR not going to threaten yourself out of stuff with a lot of seasoned thugs.
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1. This looks like a job for the sheriff.

2. I don't think I drew my gun more than five times as a security guard. And two or three of those I was clearing a building.

So most of these encounters that I'm talking about happened because the person noticed I was carrying a firearm on my hip.

I've had multiple people dare me to shoot them.

I had multiple people tell me that my gun wasn't real or that it wasn't loaded.

I had several people tell me that they were going to beat my ass and take my gun.

And three who actually tried it.

I've said this before multiple times it's like people don't believe you'll actually shoot them but they absolutely believe that you will spray them.

And the company I work for you couldn't just spray somebody you had to warn them first.

"If you don't back up I'm going to spray you."

"If you don't drop that club knife or other weapon I'm going to spray you."

The only rationale I can give you for that is I'm sure the company's lawyer told them that's how it had to be done.
 
The Night Rider said:
I just watched Blue Bloods season 14 episode 12, "Without Fear or Favor". Without going into the whole episode a retired cop gets into a verbal altercation with somebody in a bar and pulls out his handgun essentially to intimidate the guy into backing down. (In Colorado that would be aggravated menacing.)

So of course Frank Reagan gets involved, he calls the guy in and while they're debriefing the incident Baker asked the cop something along the lines of "Why did you threaten this guy with a Loaded gun?" She emphasized that the gun was loaded as if that was somehow more serious than if he had threatened the guy with an unloaded gun.

I also notice that when incidents like this are reported on the news (Local andnational), In Real Life great emphasis is placed on whether or not the gun was loaded. Actually, you never hear a reporter say that somebody was threatened with an "unloaded" gun.

So I really think as I'm asking this, the question is answering itself. I think to the untrained ear it sounds much more dramatic and scary to say that somebody was threatened with a loaded gun or that the criminal was caught with a loaded gun or that a loaded gun was found in the car then it would be to just say a gun was found in the car
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Talking points to push the agenda.
 
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