Good sling maneuvering could remove the need for a brace as well. Is set up for it.
Armscor/RIA VRF-14
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Good sling maneuvering could remove the need for a brace as well. Is set up for it.
What kind of accuracy can be debatable, grenades, missiles verses typical HG's and rifles.
RIA sells a ridiculous looking 19 round banana mag for their 12 gauge line that's almost 2ft long.
You can also find 20-25 round drums online though they can get heavy when loaded with foster slugs.
Have seen some of those, can be very heavy, almost comical monsters. Dual drums, still comical in a way, (Don't ask me why, my head may be in the gutter again?
) can help with the length verses mags, but the weights still there. 10 - 12 rounds average is more doable. 10 rounders are fairly big as it is is in comparison with avg. rifle mag. About same length as 30 rounder rifle mags.
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BET7
Ronin
Mossberg 590M have capacities of 5, 10, 15, 20 (I have 10 rds, and it’s not too bulky), Remington 870DM have capacities of 3 & 6 (I have the 6 rds and it’s not bulky at all).
Yup, was generalizing at 10 rnds. 10 round magss are easily manageable to many people, not really too bulky or too heavy to handle. Not much different than 5 rnd SG mags, about twice the length and weight. But, if considering they're only 10 rounds, that may seem to be bulky. And, then if increasing mag's size and capacity above that? 12 Ga. shot shells can get bulky quick in comparison to most other ammo. Depending on shell and person, fairly heavy too.
Bassbob
Emissary
This is how I prefer AR pistols. Single point sling set up so the end of its travel has the tube resting on my cheek.
HansGruber
Ronin
SAS style (kinda—they used 3-pt slings with their MP5’s, but kept the stocks collapsed).
Works quite well.
Bassbob
Emissary
I just can’t get used to a brace.
Windage & Elevation
Alpha
I just recently acquired one, and I find it quite enjoyable. It certainly will give you lessons in physics! The heavier the magazine, the more manageable it appears to be. And on my frame, it seems to be much better with a non-bungee sling that I can press into to help to quell the recoil. That’s making me think I want to try the 25 round drum. I am not a real big guy, and I find the 7 1/2 low brass sport loads to be adequate for my uses. I’ve only tried a couple of high base, and I found them very uncomfortable. Further, I have a Tri beam laser coming, that I am quite excited about. I hope it will correlate at least somewhat to the shot group at different ranges. I will report more as I learn it. - oh. And first post FNG - hi!
Keystone19250
SAINT
Keystone19250
SAINT
The brace wasn’t the reason I got rid of my AR Pistol but I honestly didn’t like it either.
BET7
Ronin
Be honest, you already own 3.
I had 3 when I replied to this post more than a year ago. Now, who knows how many I have.
Windage & Elevation
Alpha
I’m enjoying figuring out how to use the sling instead of a brace. I like it as short as possible.
Windage & Elevation
Alpha
It seems that a break in period is very necessary for many of these. This was not my experience.
Windage & Elevation
Alpha
Update! Got a Beamshot Tri laser and mounted it on my VRF-14. It does a really good job of estimating the pattern size at different distances. With 7 1/2 shot at home defense range it is damningly accurate. Don’t know or care about 50-75 yards, my house ain’t that big.
Bassbob
Emissary
Unless I read it wrong this is now subject to reinterpretation as a SBS due to the new AFT rule.
Bassbob
Emissary
Many of the, shall we say, "Less expensive" semi auto shotguns do in fact need to be broken in with heavier loads before they will cycle reliably. Get a few boxes of 1 oz slugs or 00B ( 1200 FPS seems to be the minimum) and fire that through it then try the lighter loads again.