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Deadly Dangers of Gun-Free Zones

Oldmountaiman said:
I have a lock box in my car but I hate leaving a weapon in my car. When I was a reserve officer I used my handcuffs but today’s world is a new animal and a lock box or handcuffs don't mean a thing if my car gets stolen. My high risk cars years ago had a disable switch which I am saving up for which is a lot more expensive now days
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OMM,

I’m no mechanic, so when I went looking at cut off switches I was surprised at the prices.

Funny, here in Florida, it was nothing to see lever action rifles and shotguns in pick-ups rear window racks when I was growing up.

Randall
 
While the libertarian in me says "its their property they can do what they want". There is a side of me that says "IF you create a hazard there should be legal recourse to citizens"

So how bout this. If a property or location is a "Gun Free Zone". Fine but if there is a violent felony committed on the property. Any citizen with a CCW carry permit can approach the owner following the resolution of the incident and file a claim. The initial pay out from the insurance company will be 10,000 within one week of the loss. This will have no determination on any future legal proceedings or future damage payments.

So imagine a Mall there is a robbery or shooting or knifing or any violent felony. Afterward anyone on the property who is a conceal carry citizen is able to apply. Now imagine an insurer of a mall getting oh 50 claims following an incident. At a cool half mil. They begin assessing the cost of the policy..and walla natural consequences takes over.
 
Oldmountaiman said:
I have a lock box in my car but I hate leaving a weapon in my car. When I was a reserve officer I used my handcuffs but todays world is a new animal and a lock box or handcuffs don't mean a thing if my car gets stolen. My high risk cars years ago had a disable switch which I am saving up for which is a lot more expensive now days
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It’s a P320. If they find it, the thing will AD and kill them most likely. So, it’s a built in kill switch 😝😝😝😝😂😂😂😂😂
 
Tacoma236 said:
While the libertarian in me says "its their property they can do what they want". There is a side of me that says "IF you create a hazard there should be legal recourse to citizens"

So how bout this. If a property or location is a "Gun Free Zone". Fine but if there is a violent felony committed on the property. Any citizen with a CCW carry permit can approach the owner following the resolution of the incident and file a claim. The initial pay out from the insurance company will be 10,000 within one week of the loss. This will have no determination on any future legal proceedings or future damage payments.

So imagine a Mall there is a robbery or shooting or knifing or any violent felony. Afterward anyone on the property who is a conceal carry citizen is able to apply. Now imagine an insurer of a mall getting oh 50 claims following an incident. At a cool half mil. They begin assessing the cost of the policy..and walla natural consequences takes over.
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Tacoma,

It is a shame we might have to wage lawfare instead of warfare in this increasingly dumbed down world. Common sense should prevail and that means personal protection trumps liberal ideals.

Randall
 
Another reason why I use a sticky holster...
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Randall Chaney said:
OMM,

I’m no mechanic, so when I went looking at cut off switches I was surprised at the prices.

Funny, here in Florida, it was nothing to see lever action rifles and shotguns in pick-ups rear window racks when I was growing up.

Randall
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Yep I had a mount that came out of a patrol car that fit perfectly in my old 4 wheel drive Intertrashanull which I wish I had back.
 
Randall Chaney said:
OMM,

I’m no mechanic, so when I went looking at cut off switches I was surprised at the prices.

Funny, here in Florida, it was nothing to see lever action rifles and shotguns in pick-ups rear window racks when I was growing up.

Randall
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I used this years ago in the truck I had before the one I have now. It worked great for me. But I don't know what the cost of one these days. https://www.ravelco.com/
 
Mr. Untactical said:
My opinion? Safety and secure trigger coverage. I realize it's personal preference to some degree, but soft holsters can lead to "accidents" if the user isn't paying attention 100% of the time.
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I personally don't have a sticky holster that doesn't completely cover the trigger, and if I'm pulling my gun out of the pocket holster, I'm very likely already in an unsafe situation and won't be re-holstering with the holster still in my pocket and not visible.
 
Randall Chaney said:
Mr. Untactical,

I only pocket carry with the Sticky. Florida is shorts and t-shirt wear most of the year. I like the security of pocket carry in well-made shorts like 5.11’s.

Randall
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Yes sir; raised in Florida (Tampa) and lived there as well as P'cola later in life. I've just accustomed myself to IWB with Kydex, even with shorts. I've heard those that prefer pocket carry can do so successfully with a Sticky or custom Kydex that fits in the pocket... as long as there's nothing else in that pocket.
 
Oldmountaiman said:
Guess I'm to old, all of ares were manual with a release pin. End of shift all shotguns came in side to be taken by next shift.
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These are the type that bolt into the floorboard of a cruiser where the console on a newer vehicle would be. Typically one side handles an AR type carbine and the other holds a shotgun. Usually an 870. They’re wired to the ignition so the release button only works if the vehicle is running.
 
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