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Can’t even get rid of my Glock 45 MOS with GPT, a Swampfox Liberty II, and optics height sights…

Yeah, but this is how I realized that Katherine Glock isn’t a gun owner, but a businesswoman and a playmate who was waiting on the old man to croak to inherit everything… I have no need for it because I’m done with GSSF and my RXM checks the box for a crossover sized pistol, as I will have the new grip tomorrow. The lesson should have been learned from everyone else, and it is obvious that you can’t negotiate with the grabbers who want the Second Amendment removed from the Constitution in its entirety.
Wait till they continue going after the RMX now which I have posted several threads about in here, so will Ruger go the same way like Glock, time will tell, Ruger bucked gun owners before….
 
I’m trying to subsidize my next purchase, I actually made an offer at a loss, it is honestly looking like Glock done messed up bad and it isn’t sellable.
As someone who has done a lot of trading/selling at local LGS’, here is my insight.

You say you made an offer at a loss? Who’s loss? Just because a catalog or a website prices something at XX, if the market doesn’t support that, it’s not worth that. An LGS is not in the business to have used guns sitting forever in their inventory or taking up floor space.

If you had some extras. Outside of standard issues that most may want (like decent brand optics), the LGS couldn’t care less what you have with the gun…maybe custom leather, but not often. Even then, they’re going to pay even less of a percentage on “options” than they do for the gun. Why? Because they can’t usually sell them as customers get zero warranty on any of it.

To be realistic, if you want to sell at an LGS, prepare to get pawn shop pricing. They are in the business to make money. Even on new guns, they make very little compared to say, new automobiles, or new electronics, etc. Too many variables and too many online storefronts offering better gun deals for customers.

My experience has also taught me that if I can find something in the LGS inventory I’m interested in, I get more for my trade than outright selling. If they don’t like my requested dollar amount, I’ll usually get a counteroffer of X amount of cash or X amount of trade, with trade usually being a few hundred more (I usually trade/sell several gun at a time, not one gun). I usually throw in all the magazines I have for said models for $5 a pop, and holsters that I’ll never use again for free (again, if custom leather from popular makers, I might ask for a bit (maybe 25% of what I paid originally).

As someone above said, 60% of used prices in catalogs like the “Blue Book of Gun Values” is a good place to start, or less - not higher. But if they (LGS) know it’s going to sit for months or a year+, you’re not going to get 60%. It’s nothing personal, and you shouldn’t be offended - it’s business.

I know I take losses by selling/trading with LGS. At the same time, I also value my time that would be taken by individual sales, tracking down buyers, hoping I don’t get robbed, worrying that my gun may be used in a crime, etc. For ME, peace of mind is a factor, as is expediency and not wasting my time with looky loos.

My experience is they also pay much less for plastic guns as the difference in price between used and new is minimal. I can assure you I’d never pay $500 for a used Glock when I could get a brand new one (with warranty and usually no issues) for $600 - if I wanted one. I dumped all my plastic guns for stainless steel/alloy models of various manufacturers.

Just some of my thoughts, make of them what you will.

Edit - almost forgot, even though some disagree, my LGS does offer more if I have all original cases, paperwork, etc. and the guns are clean and well maintained.
 
Any brand you sell you will take a loss. I recently sold a Hellcat I that owned. Only had it for 2 months but just couldn't stand it. Did I lose money, yes I did but not as much as I thought I would. Nobody cares what you have put on it. To me the more stuff on it the less I want it. If you like the gun keep it, who cares what Glock does or doesn't do. All big businesses suck! They are in business to make money. If you don't like the gun, sell it and move on. You are not special and neither is your gun. At least you will be learning a lesson in the art of business.
 
I don't try and haggle down my local gunshop. Paying full sticker is what I call the "Gunshop Tax". I don't buy guns that often. But I go into the shop once a week, get caught up with the new guns and gossip, maybe buy some powder or some ammo. If you don't buy, they won't stay open. So margins are THIN, razor thin on new guns. So I pay what they are asking so I will have a place to go next week. Guys that try and haggle them down or say "I can get it on the interweb for 8 dollars less" are a flat out embarrassment. Support your local shop, cheapskates. There is joy in generosity. There is no joy in being a piker that cuts corners constantly and frets about every dollar. Its only money. I will make more. I don't want to be stuck in my house buying everything online because that is the cheapest way. I want to get out. Drive around, see people, talk to people, meet friends for lunch. A big stack of money is poor company. Might as well get a cat.
 
I don't try and haggle down my local gunshop. Paying full sticker is what I call the "Gunshop Tax". I don't buy guns that often. But I go into the shop once a week, get caught up with the new guns and gossip, maybe buy some powder or some ammo. If you don't buy, they won't stay open. So margins are THIN, razor thin on new guns. So I pay what they are asking so I will have a place to go next week. Guys that try and haggle them down or say "I can get it on the interweb for 8 dollars less" are a flat out embarrassment. Support your local shop, cheapskates. There is joy in generosity. There is no joy in being a piker that cuts corners constantly and frets about every dollar. Its only money. I will make more. I don't want to be stuck in my house buying everything online because that is the cheapest way. I want to get out. Drive around, see people, talk to people, meet friends for lunch. A big stack of money is poor company. Might as well get a cat.
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Yeah, but this is how I realized that Katherine Glock isn’t a gun owner, but a businesswoman and a playmate who was waiting on the old man to croak to inherit everything… I have no need for it because I’m done with GSSF and my RXM checks the box for a crossover sized pistol, as I will have the new grip tomorrow. The lesson should have been learned from everyone else, and it is obvious that you can’t negotiate with the grabbers who want the Second Amendment removed from the Constitution in its entirety.

Well if you think any company really gives a poop about any one is us over what they can sell you have been lied to. Sales numbers rule every gun conpany not some noble cause or constitutional right.

So it isn’t just Mrs Glock

There are 2 rules if you follow with the fireams world (really applies to anything)

1 don’t invest your ego in a brand you think you like

2 don’t take anything as personal especially what a business does it’s not about you

Remember when everyone got mad at GM and Dodge for the Government bailout in 2008/9?????

Yeah I heard a lot of folks complain and all the never again Dodge and Chevy guys are driving Chevy’s and Dodges again. .
 
1 don’t invest your ego in a brand you think you like

2 don’t take anything as personal especially what a business does it’s not about you
Ain’t that the truth.

Finally bought a Staccato back in September. Hmmm, this 2024 “C” looks pretty awesome, especially on Labor Day sale with an additional 10% off. Did no research on Staccato’s other products (like the HD).

Lo and behold, look below what’s recently appeared on Staccato’s website…was kind of irritating, but I know it wasn’t just to spite me.

But even with that, I really enjoy the C24 I bought. Shoots great, carries great, and I see no reason to move it on though they’ll make no more. And since I bought it new, I got a lifetime warranty (so far 😂).

Staccato C​

Please note: We will discontinue the Staccato C starting Nov 21, 2025, to focus on future innovation. Limited inventory remains — available while supplies last.

Staccato CS​

Please note: We will discontinue the Staccato CS starting Nov 21, 2025, to focus on future innovation. Limited inventory remains — available while supplies last.
 
As someone who has done a lot of trading/selling at local LGS’, here is my insight.

You say you made an offer at a loss? Who’s loss? Just because a catalog or a website prices something at XX, if the market doesn’t support that, it’s not worth that. An LGS is not in the business to have used guns sitting forever in their inventory or taking up floor space.

If you had some extras. Outside of standard issues that most may want (like decent brand optics), the LGS couldn’t care less what you have with the gun…maybe custom leather, but not often. Even then, they’re going to pay even less of a percentage on “options” than they do for the gun. Why? Because they can’t usually sell them as customers get zero warranty on any of it.

To be realistic, if you want to sell at an LGS, prepare to get pawn shop pricing. They are in the business to make money. Even on new guns, they make very little compared to say, new automobiles, or new electronics, etc. Too many variables and too many online storefronts offering better gun deals for customers.

My experience has also taught me that if I can find something in the LGS inventory I’m interested in, I get more for my trade than outright selling. If they don’t like my requested dollar amount, I’ll usually get a counteroffer of X amount of cash or X amount of trade, with trade usually being a few hundred more (I usually trade/sell several gun at a time, not one gun). I usually throw in all the magazines I have for said models for $5 a pop, and holsters that I’ll never use again for free (again, if custom leather from popular makers, I might ask for a bit (maybe 25% of what I paid originally).

As someone above said, 60% of used prices in catalogs like the “Blue Book of Gun Values” is a good place to start, or less - not higher. But if they (LGS) know it’s going to sit for months or a year+, you’re not going to get 60%. It’s nothing personal, and you shouldn’t be offended - it’s business.

I know I take losses by selling/trading with LGS. At the same time, I also value my time that would be taken by individual sales, tracking down buyers, hoping I don’t get robbed, worrying that my gun may be used in a crime, etc. For ME, peace of mind is a factor, as is expediency and not wasting my time with looky loos.

My experience is they also pay much less for plastic guns as the difference in price between used and new is minimal. I can assure you I’d never pay $500 for a used Glock when I could get a brand new one (with warranty and usually no issues) for $600 - if I wanted one. I dumped all my plastic guns for stainless steel/alloy models of various manufacturers.

Just some of my thoughts, make of them what you will.

Edit - almost forgot, even though some disagree, my LGS does offer more if I have all original cases, paperwork, etc. and the guns are clean and well maintained.
this is why i trade in my cars, and guns to the dealerships/gun stores...

time..i got none to waste on intrinsic items...why should i chase down the money or the buyer..?? why should i wait for a yes or no on a deal..???...and lose out on a "sure deal" that made a great offer.. just to wait for some jackwad...???

i take my guns to the LGS, do the deal, lose some money, and it's done..

i take my vehicles to the dealership, trade it in, be done with not only the older vehicle, but the hassle of dealing with a buyer.....

you wanna really increase your chances of getting a LOT of money on something you bought..and now want to get rid of....??

put your house up for sale.......
 
Well if you think any company really gives a poop about any one is us over what they can sell you have been lied to. Sales numbers rule every gun conpany not some noble cause or constitutional right.

So it isn’t just Mrs Glock

There are 2 rules if you follow with the fireams world (really applies to anything)

1 don’t invest your ego in a brand you think you like

2 don’t take anything as personal especially what a business does it’s not about you

Remember when everyone got mad at GM and Dodge for the Government bailout in 2008/9?????

Yeah I heard a lot of folks complain and all the never again Dodge and Chevy guys are driving Chevy’s and Dodges again. .
Try PSA then, they actually made it their mission for any qualified American to exercise their right.
 
I agree with a lot of people in here. Guns are like new cars when it comes to selling them. I sold 1 of my 43X to an old co worker for more than I did for my 2nd 43X to a LGS.

Personally I have a network of friends who I truly trust on pawning my stuff onto for other stuff down the road. Yes we legitimately FFL stuff to each other and keep a running tab (we aren’t made of money but honest to each other) so the other one won’t get screwed.

Every manufacturer has gotten into lawsuits of some sorts and some have their hater’s because of it. Just remember it’s a company that is making a product for some sort of profit. I’ll admit I don’t like Glock because it’s basically just the same gun over the last 40 years ish but I’ll keep my G23.5 because it still goes bang. Heck SA is in my own state and had issues with a scandal with Illinois but I own 2 labeled firearms with them which go bang every time.

My point is - if it goes bang then go with it.
 
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