I don't try and haggle down my local gunshop. Paying full sticker is what I call the "Gunshop Tax". I don't buy guns that often. But I go into the shop once a week, get caught up with the new guns and gossip, maybe buy some powder or some ammo. If you don't buy, they won't stay open. So margins are THIN, razor thin on new guns. So I pay what they are asking so I will have a place to go next week. Guys that try and haggle them down or say "I can get it on the interweb for 8 dollars less" are a flat out embarrassment. Support your local shop, cheapskates. There is joy in generosity. There is no joy in being a piker that cuts corners constantly and frets about every dollar. Its only money. I will make more. I don't want to be stuck in my house buying everything online because that is the cheapest way. I want to get out. Drive around, see people, talk to people, meet friends for lunch. A big stack of money is poor company. Might as well get a cat.