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Jeff Cooper's Color Code for Survival

I think a lot of people overthink Cooper's color code.

As I watch the video that I posted above it seems to me he's using it more as a descriptive training aid.

People in condition White are essentially clueless. They're the people that leave their house unlocked or leave their car unlocked or leave a shotgun in a gun rack in the back of their pickup truck because they think "It'll never happen to me."

People in condition yellow understand that the world is not a safe place. They lock their doors. They lock their cars. If they leave a gun in their car they lock it up more than just having the car doors locked. Because they think or they've been taught it could happen to me.

In My Opinion those are the only two colors on the color condition chart that matter. There are only two kinds of people in the world those who are clueless and those who are not.

The way Cooper describes it in his video Orange is the person who is being confronted or who sees a situation developing and goes from realizing "The world is generally not a safe place and I may have to defend myself today."

To "I may have to defend myself against that specific person today, because he's doing things that are tripping my radar."

Yellow is a cop doing a traffic stop at night.

Orange is a cop doing a traffic stop at night and the guy in the car is reaching around inside the car.

According to Cooper Red is very specific. The person has demonstrated that they are specifically a threat to you and you are making Shoot/Don't shoot decisions.

And it seems like whenever this is discussed on the internet people talk about how they decide to be in condition yellow today or in condition Orange today.

I don't think that's something that we decide. I think that's something that circumstances decide.

I didn't wake up this morning and think to myself "I know the world is not a safe place. I'd better be in condition yellow all day."
 
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The Night Rider said:
I think a lot of people overthink Cooper's color code.

As I watch the video that I posted above it seems to me he's using it more as a descriptive training aid.

People in condition White are essentially clueless. They're the people that leave their house unlocked or leave their car unlocked or leave a shotgun in a gun rack in the back of their pickup truck because they think "It'll never happen to me."

People in condition yellow understand that the world is not a safe place. They lock their doors. They lock their cars. If they leave a gun in their car they lock it up more than just having the car doors locked. Because they think or they've been taught it could happen to me.

In My Opinion those are the only two colors on the color condition chart that matter. There are only two kinds of people in the world those who are clueless and those who are not.

The way Cooper describes it in his video Orange is the person who is being confronted or who sees a situation developing and goes from realizing "The world is generally not a safe place and I may have to defend myself today."

To "I may have to defend myself against that specific person today, because he's doing things that are tripping my radar."

Yellow is a cop doing a traffic stop at night.

Orange is a cop doing a traffic stop at night and the guy in the car is reaching around inside the car.

According to Cooper Red is very specific. The person has demonstrated that they are specifically a threat to you and you are making Shoot/Don't shoot decisions.

And it seems like whenever this is discussed on the internet people talk about how they decide to be in condition yellow today or in condition Orange today.

I don't think that's something that we decide. I think that's something that circumstances decide.

I didn't wake up this morning and think to myself "I know the world is not a safe place. I'd better be in condition yellow all day."
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Agreed

I do think people (at least me) do some daily assessment of the threat level before leaving the house. There are days where a pocket pistol seems enough and days where a FLUX PDW seems appropriate. Sometimes I leave the house on YELLOW, sometimes on ORANGE. It depends on current events and where I am/where Im going.
 
PieterCoetzee said:
Sometimes I leave the house on YELLOW, sometimes on ORANGE. It depends on current events and where I am/where Im going.
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According to Cooper orange is a specific threat. As in, I may have to defend myself against that specific person today.

If I was getting ready to leave the house and there was a specific threat (besides my Turkey)
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I wouldn't leave home.
 
I reside in Tucson, there is always a threat, road ragers, Street racers, really bad drivers, shooting in the mall, (yesterday) drive by shootings, etc. This week has been a tough week as we've had 3 shootings and 4 dead, and 6 more wounded. All within 2 miles of my front door.

One just has to be alert and cautious, but it can't overwhelm you, or you will need psych help.
 
The Night Rider said:
According to Cooper orange is a specific threat. As in, I may have to defend myself against that specific person today.
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You are correct; Im not disagreeing but in Copper's day, we werent facing the same potential threats (at least not here in the US). I guess Im just applying Cooper to todays enviroment

I worked during the Freddie Grey nonsense in the Baltimore area; during those days we were all on Orange (everyone was a threat), whether it was making a traffic stop or sitting in an empty parking lot to write a report.

If i knew I have to drive through the city on a "regular day", Id be on Yellow but: during the "Mostly peaceful protests", I think Id be on Orange because of the enhanced threat level
 
The Night Rider said:
I think a lot of people overthink Cooper's color code.

As I watch the video that I posted above it seems to me he's using it more as a descriptive training aid.

People in condition White are essentially clueless. They're the people that leave their house unlocked or leave their car unlocked or leave a shotgun in a gun rack in the back of their pickup truck because they think "It'll never happen to me."

People in condition yellow understand that the world is not a safe place. They lock their doors. They lock their cars. If they leave a gun in their car they lock it up more than just having the car doors locked. Because they think or they've been taught it could happen to me.

In My Opinion those are the only two colors on the color condition chart that matter. There are only two kinds of people in the world those who are clueless and those who are not.

The way Cooper describes it in his video Orange is the person who is being confronted or who sees a situation developing and goes from realizing "The world is generally not a safe place and I may have to defend myself today."

To "I may have to defend myself against that specific person today, because he's doing things that are tripping my radar."

Yellow is a cop doing a traffic stop at night.

Orange is a cop doing a traffic stop at night and the guy in the car is reaching around inside the car.

According to Cooper Red is very specific. The person has demonstrated that they are specifically a threat to you and you are making Shoot/Don't shoot decisions.

And it seems like whenever this is discussed on the internet people talk about how they decide to be in condition yellow today or in condition Orange today.

I don't think that's something that we decide. I think that's something that circumstances decide.

I didn't wake up this morning and think to myself "I know the world is not a safe place. I'd better be in condition yellow all day."
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Yes sir
 
PieterCoetzee said:
You are correct; Im not disagreeing but in Copper's day, we werent facing the same potential threats (at least not here in the US). I guess Im just applying Cooper to todays enviroment

I worked during the Freddie Grey nonsense in the Baltimore area; during those days we were all on Orange (everyone was a threat), whether it was making a traffic stop or sitting in an empty parking lot to write a report.

If i knew I have to drive through the city on a "regular day", Id be on Yellow but: during the "Mostly peaceful protests", I think Id be on Orange because of the enhanced threat level
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Specific or potential?
 
PieterCoetzee said:
Well mostly potential during the riots but there were intel reports of specific threats

On an unrelated incident I did have a guy threaten to kill my wife and kids (then go on to describe them and our car). THAT was pretty specific
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I should have been more specific.

So is Cooper Orange for a specific threat or a potential threat?
 
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