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What would YOU have done?

PieterCoetzee said:
I guess it depends where you live, as in WHO is that officer. I live in a small department area and I dont have a clue which officer that would be AND chances are theres NOTHING he can do to resolve the OPs problem at the individual patrol officer level. THIS issue is gonna need a drug investigation, which will include a search warrant and a trash inspection
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I agree it depends on the department. I expected my officers to make personal contact with complainants when requested. But there are 17,000 LE agencies and a wide range of customer service policies.
 
I moved because of that type of environment. I'm very fortunate in that I had the means to do it. It's a sick world out there. Find a place where fruits and nuts are less abundant if you can. If not, I concur with others about gathering evidence by means of reports, but refrain from having the police visit him or agitating him in any way if possible. Those types like retribution.
 
HayesGreener said:
I agree it depends on the department. I expected my officers to make personal contact with complainants when requested. Buy there are 17,000 LE agencies and a wide range of customer service policies.
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EXACTLY and Im not sure I want an Officer knocking on my door after that. Chances are it will enflame matters with the neighbor. The PD putting him on notice is like a warning shot, it only tells him YOU are the problem

Make the PD Commander fix this
 
I would have found someplace else to park and ignored it.

I don't know what kind of apartment you live in. I mean I don't know what the management of your apartment is like I don't know how they seriously they take violations.

I lived in an apartment for 13 or 14 years. It's been my experience in my location that management wants to put in their 8 hours and go home with the least amount of conflict possible. You can report to them over and over and over again and they're not going to do anything about it.

It's also been my experience at retaliation is a thing and those people now know what your car looks like.

A couple of people are suggesting moving. The problem I have with that is where you going to move to? There aren't any good neighborhoods left anymore.

Wherever you move to you're going to run into somebody like that.
 
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Agreed this ISNT an apartment management thing

Yes retaliation is likely so its gotta be an arrest on a charge that sticks. All the better if YOU arent part of the actual arrest

Im betting if hes charged with dealing from the apartment that he will be evicted.

There ARE better places, just few and far between AND expensive

You may find the same from new neighbors but maybe they are a bit less violent
 
I'm posting this in two different discussions because it applies to both.

I can only speak from my experience as a security guard in Colorado Springs.

I've seen several discussions recently where people are advised to call the police.

Please don't take this wrong but I question whether some of the people giving that advice have called the police in their town or city recently.

When I worked as a security guard calling the police was literally my job description. I mostly called the police for petty trespassing and I was told it was low priority and they didn't come right out and say they weren't coming but they told me it was going to be a while before they got there.

When they told me that I got a call screen number for my report so that I could prove that I had called the police and did my job to the limit of my abilities.

I was on my way home from the gym shortly before we moved. I stopped at a stop sign (N. Carefree and Hollow) and some homeless guy freaked out on me and started yelling and cussing and all the things.

He pointed a gun at me and I took off. I called the police on my way home. I did not call 911 because I wasn't in immediate Danger.

I decided to time it I was on hold with general dispatch for 17 and a half minutes.

When the call taker picked up the phone and took my report, she asked me if I wanted them to dispatch a unit I don't remember if she actually said that call (MWAG) was a low priority but she certainly implied it.

I told her not to bother because it was going to be hours before anybody got there.

I've old this story before, while I was still working I got home from work one morning and there was an abandoned carpet place in the parking lot behind our apartments, there was a car in the lot on fire. Dispatch told me they send somebody out when they could but as long as no one was in Immediate Danger it wasn't a priority.

I've already said this was only my one location but I would invite those of you who suggesting to call the police that you call your general dispatch line and see if you don't run into a phone tree or an answering machine.

I really haven't had cause to call the police since that first story I told you and that was a year and a half ago?

I don't know how to say this but in my life I don't bother to call the police unless I truly believe that somebody's going to die if I don't.
 
The Night Rider said:
I'm posting this in two different discussions because it applies to both.

I can only speak from my experience as a security guard in Colorado Springs.

I've seen several discussions recently where people are advised to call the police.

Please don't take this wrong but I question whether some of the people giving that advice have called the police in their town or city recently.

When I worked as a security guard calling the police was literally my job description. I mostly called the police for petty trespassing and I was told it was low priority and they didn't come right out and say they weren't coming but they told me it was going to be a while before they got there.

When they told me that I got a call screen number for my report so that I could prove that I had called the police and did my job to the limit of my abilities.

I was on my way home from the gym shortly before we moved. I stopped at a stop sign (N. Carefree and Hollow) and some homeless guy freaked out on me and started yelling and cussing and all the things.

He pointed a gun at me and I took off. I called the police on my way home. I did not call 911 because I wasn't in immediate Danger.

I decided to time it I was on hold with general dispatch for 17 and a half minutes.

When the call taker picked up the phone and took my report, she asked me if I wanted them to dispatch a unit I don't remember if she actually said that call (MWAG) was a low priority but she certainly implied it.

I told her not to bother because it was going to be hours before anybody got there.

I've old this story before, while I was still working I got home from work one morning and there was an abandoned carpet place in the parking lot behind our apartments, there was a car in the lot on fire. Dispatch told me they send somebody out when they could but as long as no one was in Immediate Danger it wasn't a priority.

I've already said this was only my one location but I would invite those of you who suggesting to call the police that you call your general dispatch line and see if you don't run into a phone tree or an answering machine.

I really haven't had cause to call the police since that first story I told you and that was a year and a half ago?

I don't know how to say this but in my life I don't bother to call the police unless I truly believe that somebody's going to die if I don't.
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when i've called it wasn't 911 unless i didn't have a number to the area sheriff's or state troopers. i agree on the 911 thing when you can get switched from 1 location to another even if it's an emergency or urgent. on the way to the dmv with my son there was a semi swerving over the line and off the road (on their direction). we followed it for 10 miles then decided to call 911 due to the traffic. i couldn't tell if he was falling asleep or had frontend issue(s). we decided to pass them when it was safe. a trooper passed me then hit the brakes and i knew he wanted to talk to me as i told them what i was driving. not long the semi passed us and said that's the semi in question. what i found out...........he was falling asleep, but it was team drivers. driver's switched and continued on.
 
Having been a cop for 25 years, retired for 20, I'm gonna say this.

Don't be a hero.

You wife wants to keep you around.

Call the non emergency number for the Dept of jurisdiction and talk to them. You probably won't have to give your name, and be aware of the happenings around you.

I don't know what state you reside, and maybe they do different things than my agency would.

If you get more involved than this, get with a lawyer and get your will in order.

Dealers have been known to be violent.
 
I suppose it depends where you live but in any major jurisdiction calling the police of sheriff directly is a mistake. THEY dont dispatch. THEY dont have a clue where all the units are. They arent set up for multi departments. 911 is tied into all those things. 911 can start units from outside your immediate area. 911 has a display of all the units, whether they are on a call on not. Andy can only call Barney on the radio, then hes got to dial the phone for the state boys and say please. 911 just says go and they all GO

Im sure its different in the LONGMIRE areas where the secretary is also the dispatcher when shes not feeding the prisoner with take out from the Busy Bee
 
Aged_Cheddar said:
My wife and I had just come home from grocery shopping. We live in an apartment complex where parking is at a premium, as we parked we noticed a car occupying 2 stalls in front of our building, It didn’t have the parking tag that our complex uses, so I asked my wife to snap a pic of the car/plate so we could email it to the property manager to see if she knew the person, so she could contact them to have it moved a little…otherwise the complex has non-resident cars towed.
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I would have had parked my car, went inside, and minded my business. I can understand why someone would have a problem with a stranger taking pics of their plates.


Aged_Cheddar said:
So, at this point I was coming back out of our apartment, and I was getting ready to become the aforementioned problem 😈, but my wife continued to try and de-escalate and urged me to dial it down…I complied, however the other guy from the apartment just kept pushing, like he wanted the fight…Seriously dude??
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You never know what others are capable of. You put yourself and your wife in a situation that could have very well ended in one or both of you being injured or dead over worrying about where someone else parked when you already parked and simply had to go inside of your home. That car mostly would have been gone within minutes anyway. You live there, but that's not your spot or property. I doubt law enforcement could do anything about where they parked, as the complex or whoever they contracted with to tow cars would have to take care of it... You can't even have anyone trespassed because that's not your property and they were one of your neighbors' guest.


Aged_Cheddar said:
normally I’d call that bluff,
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Why? You have an ego problem. The male ego has been the very reason behind many men being either six feet deep or six feet under the jail. He was free to say whatever he wants just as long as he doesn't physically threaten you. It seems that only your wife was using common sense by attempting to smooth things over after being put in a bad situation because she took your advice.


Aged_Cheddar said:
And the LAST thing I want is a damn shootout in an apartment complex, talk about the potential for collateral damage, we have a lot of children in this complex, I could never forgive myself for hurting one of them.
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It seems that's the path you're own. Michael Drejka, George Zimmerman... In many cases, you put yourself in legal trouble if you initiate the alteration and/or "call someone's bluff" even if they pull a weapon and you have to defend yourself. Yes, you might get off in the long run, but at what cost? All because of your ego...


Aged_Cheddar said:
We notified our property manager, but my wife is actually worried this is going to be an ongoing problem now, since this dude seemed intent on confrontation today…
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You should have simply parked your car and went inside in the first place instead of being the unpaid, unofficial, complex parking police Karen. You should have just quietly notified management and been done with it. Now, they'll know who notified them. You should do everything to avoid conflicts and putting yourself and those you love in danger. Often times, all that requires is minding ones business. The only time I have a problem with someone parking in my condo complex is when they park in my assigned spot. Even then, I'm polite and respectful about it. I'll leave a note or have knocked ony neighbors' doors to find who the car belongs to so that I can politely ask them to move.

I've seen scenarios like this ad nauseam were egos and tempers were involved turn deadly. In the grand scheme of things, it's always over the dumbest of things.
 
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I really love how you can go to the internet with a problem that occurred and be told what you SHOULD have done. The OP came here and told a story, sure he wanted to vent and maybe flex a bit; but he told his version of what happened.

Folks telling him what he Should have done or worse what THEY would have done arent helping, and maybe making it worse. Perhaps if they said NEXT TIME try this; but should and would are scolding, like the boss saying you saved the company but you broke a window and knocked over Mary's wedding picture cracking the frame.

What happened HAPPENED, maybe you could try suggesting how to proceed from there. I suspect the Woulds/Shoulds were meant with good intentions and maybe as suggestions for future encounters BUT they dont help the OPs original issue

Maybe next time you feel the need to "I would have..." you might ask yourself how youd like to hear it when youre asking for help. Cuz it sounds like an Internal Affairs questioning from a guy who cant remember the last time he was in uniform, when the only real questions that matter are "What did you know" and "What did you do about it".
 
PieterCoetzee said:
I really love how you can go to the internet with a problem that occurred and be told what you SHOULD have done. The OP came here and told a story, sure he wanted to vent and maybe flex a bit; but he told his version of what happened.

Folks telling him what he Should have done or worse what THEY would have done arent helping, and maybe making it worse. Perhaps if they said NEXT TIME try this; but should and would are scolding, like the boss saying you saved the company but you broke a window and knocked over Mary's wedding picture cracking the frame.

What happened HAPPENED, maybe you could try suggesting how to proceed from there. I suspect the Woulds/Shoulds were meant with good intentions and maybe as suggestions for future encounters BUT they dont help the OPs original issue

Maybe next time you feel the need to "I would have..." you might ask yourself how youd like to hear it when youre asking for help. Cuz it sounds like an Internal Affairs questioning from a guy who cant remember the last time he was in uniform, when the only real questions that matter are "What did you know" and "What did you do about it".
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The title of this thread is literally "WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE?"
 
Retired Bum said:
Every department to my knowledge, has a non emergency number for reporting such. Just call and talk to them.
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The problem with NON Emergency lines is they rely on the caller to make that determination, instead of a dispatch center with all the data before them. Sure it could be just rats in the alley but it might be rats tearing at a trash bag with a body inside.

If you need pot holes fixed call county roads but water flooding out of a home may mean more. A fallen branch that broke a window when the neighbors were out of town could have been "just call the property manager"; but it got me a huge Marijuana grow
 
OldGrunt said:
The title of this thread is literally "WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE?"
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Yep but its pretty clear he was asking for validation and help

Early on guys here beat up on me for spouting a superior attitude. In reflection I can see some of their points, so now when I see someone clearly asking for help, Im thinking we should offer help or at least suggestions

You guys are free to disagree but Shoulds and Woulds dont help they are superior and condescending (where have I heard that before). Instead of telling a kid who failed math that you know the square of Pi (9.8696 BTW), maybe say next year lets study together
 
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