testtest

Hello. My n00b General Reloading questions that seem retarded, and probably are.

L

LoneGunman

Operator
Hi.

I wet tumbled these 9mm cases and then baked them in a gas oven at 250 F for an hour.

1. have I messed the brass up by overheating/over drying the brass?
2. Will the soap/hard water residual mess up my reload (Am I soon to be called "lefty?")
3. Not shiny enough? A shiny case is a Godly cartridge. The aluminum pan I held them in while they were in the oven seems to added to the discoloring.

Plan to reload 100 grain, practice boolits.
See pics.
(Beagle for scale.)
1.jpg
4.jpg
3.jpg
2.jpg


Unrelated question.
A former neighbor had an AR-9mm and was using Bill and Ted's Mystery roadside reloads which were common here in AZ during the ammo-pocalypse a few years back. During extraction, a round left the mouth of the case completely fractured off in a neat ring within the chamber. I got it out for him using a tap slightly larger than the interior diameter of the broken case.

What would cause this? Bad case? Hot load?

​

 
LoneGunman said:
Hi.

I wet tumbled these 9mm cases and then baked them in a gas oven at 250 F for an hour.

1. have I messed the brass up by overheating/over drying the brass?
2. Will the soap/hard water residual mess up my reload (Am I soon to be called "lefty?")
3. Not shiny enough? A shiny case is a Godly cartridge. The aluminum pan I held them in while they were in the oven seems to added to the discoloring.

Plan to reload 100 grain, practice boolits.
See pics.
(Beagle for scale.)
View attachment 111788View attachment 111789View attachment 111790View attachment 111791

Unrelated question.
A former neighbor had an AR-9mm and was using Bill and Ted's Mystery roadside reloads which were common here in AZ during the ammo-pocalypse a few years back. During extraction, a round left the mouth of the case completely fractured off in a neat ring within the chamber. I got it out for him using a tap slightly larger than the interior diameter of the broken case.

What would cause this? Bad case? Hot load?

​

Click to expand...
i've had that happen on a 10mm ar...........i used the same ammo in another ar in 10mm w/o issues. i'd say it's the brass, but don't exclude a hi pressure round. baking the brass should cause any issues at low temps and shouldn't take an hour. try a dehydrator
 
I have never heard of putting brass in the oven, when I reloaded I used corn cob media to clean my brass, never used any wet tumbler stuff, corn cob always worked great for me, things must have changed since the 90’s with cleaning brass, all well!
 
Oven drying isn't new, but I believe the temperature is way too high. I've never dried brass at more than 150⁰ and not longer than 15-20 minutes.

Actually I seldom wet tumbled and used walnut media and got great results. I only wet tumbled when I shot black powder cartridges for silhouette matches.
 
You didnt hurt anything. Reload and shoot it without worry.

Ever seen guys aneal rife brass? They get it glowing red and it shoots better than before. Your pistol brass doesn't have near the pressure of rifle ammo.
 
You aren’t hurting the brass at that temperature. Brass work hardens so the more times it shot and sized it hardens. By heating it and cooling it off quickly the brass actually becomes softer. But it’s at higher temperatures than 250 degrees. I’ve always used a tumbler with corncob media or walnut hull media. It cleans just as well as wet tumbling without having to dry the brass. And it hard to say why you or your friend had a case head separation it could be a number of things.
And the only dumb question is the question you don’t ask. I’ve been reloading for over 50 years and I didn’t start out know everything. You learn by asking questions and studying reloading manuals.
 
when i "wet clean" any of my brass, i use hot tap water, Dawn, and Lemi Shine.

i put the brass into a net (like you get when you buy oranges), then i let them soak a bit in the mix.....

rinse them in cold water, drain them for a few seconds

then put them in the Lyman dehydrator, for maybe about 2 hours or more, depending on how many i have washed.

some come out perfect, some come out like yours.

then i toss them in the polish corn cob media, for up to 2 hours, again, this all depends on how many i have at one time.

reload them, box them....

store them

shoot them when thier time comes in order of storage of previous reloads.
 
I think they will be just fine if you tumble them for an hour or two. I like to use Flitz Tumbler Media Additive (info Here on Midway USA web site. It's kind of pricey but a little bit goes a long way and it works beautifully).

If you don't want to go to that effort just load up a dozen or so to make sure everything is good (I'm pretty sure it is). If all works well load up the rest, shoot them up, and next time dry them differently.
 
LoneGunman said:
Hi.

I wet tumbled these 9mm cases and then baked them in a gas oven at 250 F for an hour.

1. have I messed the brass up by overheating/over drying the brass?
2. Will the soap/hard water residual mess up my reload (Am I soon to be called "lefty?")
3. Not shiny enough? A shiny case is a Godly cartridge. The aluminum pan I held them in while they were in the oven seems to added to the discoloring.

Plan to reload 100 grain, practice boolits.
See pics.
(Beagle for scale.)
View attachment 111788View attachment 111789View attachment 111790View attachment 111791

Unrelated question.
A former neighbor had an AR-9mm and was using Bill and Ted's Mystery roadside reloads which were common here in AZ during the ammo-pocalypse a few years back. During extraction, a round left the mouth of the case completely fractured off in a neat ring within the chamber. I got it out for him using a tap slightly larger than the interior diameter of the broken case.

What would cause this? Bad case? Hot load?

​

Click to expand...
Someone is looking sorely disappointed in your latest culinary offering.
 
welll
150 is plently to dry the brass
250 didnt hurt it
alum pan and brass will interact as you witnessed, it wont hurt the brass.

dawn and warm water and jiggle works wonders for those brass we harvest in the wild that have bugs and leaves in them

my brass then gets corn cob vibration cleaned
its clean but not overly clean
wiped down after loading as a final look
sits for months or longer in a plastic berry holder, until used as i load 1ks in one set up and then clean the machine and put it away
you are obviously cleaning the primer pockets and thats an important spot to keep clean so primers STAY in and not leave you as the round goes into battery or drops out in the magazine


reloading is FUN science and math
its very very relaxing for me

NO QUESTION IS DUMB in regards to reloading EVER
(y)
 
Wet tumbling has now become a big thing . And certainly seems to get them real shiny , real quick .

I didn't see rinsing mentioned in first post . Did you forget to mention it , or did you not rinse ?

Spread them out , and air dry ?
 
Biggfoot44 said:
Wet tumbling has now become a big thing . And certainly seems to get them real shiny , real quick .

I didn't see rinsing mentioned in first post . Did you forget to mention it , or did you not rinse ?

Spread them out , and air dry ?
Click to expand...
Rinsing. No didn't rinse. So that's probably soap residue. Makes sense.
 
Biggfoot44 said:
Wet tumbling has now become a big thing . And certainly seems to get them real shiny , real quick .

I didn't see rinsing mentioned in first post . Did you forget to mention it , or did you not rinse ?

Spread them out , and air dry ?
Click to expand...
Yeah on second look it seems to be soap/LemiShine residue. I'll rinse thoroughly next time.
 
Annihilator said:
I have never heard of putting brass in the oven, when I reloaded I used corn cob media to clean my brass, never used any wet tumbler stuff, corn cob always worked great for me, things must have changed since the 90’s with cleaning brass, all well!
Click to expand...
Yeah I thought about dry media cleaning. And thought about the hassle of getting cleaning/reloading supplies and didn't want to deal with another consumable. And dust. I live in AZ and anything that generates dust, I don't want to deal with. (but you live in AZ. -- I know I know)

I bought this stuff during the tail end of Obungler's last term. Yeah it's taken me a good minute to get around to reloading. I wanted to make sure I had enough brass so when I sort and inspect I wouldn't get retarded about case defects: nick in the mouth of the case - scrap yard bin; extractor distorted the rim - recycle bin; etc. I've got several 5 gallon buckets full due to "practicing for competition," and gave away a few as well. But that was well before Inflati-geddon we're going through now and I could afford large amounts of bulk ammo. Now, not so much. Thanks Federal Gubbermint.

I appreciate all the tips and comments.

Maybe i do have a touch of the OCD, but I just want to make sure I'm doing this right and making sure that everything is done correctly at every stage and know what the end product is supposed to look like, because if it don't look right, well then it probably isn't, and worth the risk using. And I would be wasting time and supplies.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top