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Data on distance of shootings in LEO shootings

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ECS686

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Here’s some interesting info John Hearne shared as part of his Monday Nerd nuggets on his training page (Two Pillars Training on FB)

Included is a pic for those that want to throw arguments at what they witnessed (or more likely heard) about in their agency echo chamber and somt was to read to reference

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Officer Survival Spotlight: What Is a Safe Distance? | FBI: Law Enforcement Bulletin

Maintaining a greater distance between the officer and offender proves critical in preventing assaults or felonious deaths of law enforcement personnel.
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ECS686 said:
Which this is right on par with Tom Givens data of his Rangemaster students that were in shootings as well.
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Amen.

And why I can't seem to justify carrying an auto with (multiple) magazines. Makes no sense to me, given what the stats demonstrate.

As a civilian not looking for trouble, I feel confident and comfortable with my Colt Agent 38. If its going to be an encounter, it's going to be a mugging/assault/carjacking.
 
Anchorite said:
Amen.

And why I can't seem to justify carrying an auto with (multiple) magazines. Makes no sense to me, given what the stats demonstrate.

As a civilian not looking for trouble, I feel confident and comfortable with my Colt Agent 38. If its going to be an encounter, it's going to be a mugging/assault/carjacking.
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I feel the same way. However uiu would be supervised the pushback I get. Like look everyone can carry whatever but the chance of multiple mags being needed as well as a 50 yard zero with an optic is probably overthinking it.
 
Anchorite said:
Amen.

And why I can't seem to justify carrying an auto with (multiple) magazines. Makes no sense to me, given what the stats demonstrate.

As a civilian not looking for trouble, I feel confident and comfortable with my Colt Agent 38. If its going to be an encounter, it's going to be a mugging/assault/carjacking.
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As I have always believed, if I am ever in a shooting scrape it will more than likely be at what I call "Jack Ruby distance."
 
Anchorite said:
Amen.

And why I can't seem to justify carrying an auto with (multiple) magazines. Makes no sense to me, given what the stats demonstrate.

As a civilian not looking for trouble, I feel confident and comfortable with my Colt Agent 38. If its going to be an encounter, it's going to be a mugging/assault/carjacking.
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However, the advantages of having extra ammo (I'm talking a box or two in the glove box) is that you don't run dry when you swing into the gravel pit to find some good ol boys popping cans and shooting the :poop:.;):ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
I’m a halfway decent shot with a handgun not spectacular. But that’s with no real pressure. I can take my time to get good hits. I can hit clay targets ( not flying through the air) at 100 yards. But put under pressure things change. When You are fighting your sympathetic nervous system to pull the trigger if you sights are on target or not. When someone has a weapon point at you it’s very easy to fall into lizard brain. When you have bullets coming at you it’s even worse. All you want to do is survive. That’s why training is very important if done enough and in the right way. It becomes a learned activity. When learning to do something new it takes 2500 reputations for you brain to make the new nerve connections and a sheath built around the new nerve so you brain doesn’t delete what you have learned. The process is called nueroplasticy. The old saying when you’re in a fight for your life you will fall back on your training. If you only want to practice at close range only I understand. In a gunfight I don’t think I will ever need to make hits at 100 yards with a handgun. But Murphy’s law says it can happen.
 
bc22wm said:
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However, the advantages of having extra ammo (I'm talking a box or two in the glove box) is that you don't run dry when you swing into the gravel pit to find some good ol boys popping cans and shooting the :poop:.;):ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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My training and experience has taught me that if something goes wrong with a QUALITY, WELL MAINTAINED semi auto handgun, it is most likely due to faulty ammunition, or faulty magazine, or operator error. I carry two spare magazines because that is how I was trained. Not because I am likely to need to shoot that much, but to get back in the fight if I have a failure with the magazine or ammo that's in the gun. Think of malfunction clearance procedures. If tap, rack, bang and slide manipulation doesn't get you going again, dump the magazine, reload a new magazine, and start over. Absent a reload on your belt, you are reduced to a 2 pound club. I would also invite you to consider that after you have dealt with an aggressor, he might have confederates on the sidelines who you have to deal with next. We just don't know what the future will bring.
 
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