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Why Do So Many Prosecutors Let Criminals With Illegally Converted GLOCK Pistols Walk?

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Anti-gun lawmakers and their gun control allies exploit menacing language to bolster their arguments against lawful firearms: ordinary semi-automatic rifles and pistols become “weapons of war” and “assault weapons.” “Large capacity” magazines actually refers to standard-issue magazines. And personally-made firearms are referred to as the much more sinister sounding “ghost guns.”

The latest in this semantic stigmatization is “machinegun-convertible pistol,” aimed at GLOCK and GLOCK-style semiautomatic handguns. Several states have imposed, or are in the process of enacting, bans aimed at one of the most ubiquitous handguns in America through laws prohibiting “machinegun-convertible” guns, because these legal guns can be modified by the installation of an illegal converter or “switch” device that enables automatic firing.

Such laws follow in the wake of lawsuits against GLOCK by various jurisdictions, supported by gun control groups, in which the central allegation is that the gun manufacturer somehow “facilitates” the proliferation of illegal machine guns possessed and used by criminals, despite the fact that neither GLOCK nor any manufacturer of GLOCK-style pistols manufactures or imports the switches or promotes the illegal modification of their firearms.

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Now, research by the Crime Prevention Research Center suggests how overblown and tenuous these claims actually are.

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BassCliff said:
Hi,

Whenever there's a shooting, Democrats want to punish everyone who didn't do it.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
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that's right...you did not say what i will say...and let the mods do as they wish with my comments.

if you are Black, you get to walk

white...you get fined, and possible jail time


like if you're white, you ain't right

its called extreme "wokeism"...and that sheetziod bull crap needs to stop, and do things RIGHT..never mind color, race, whatever.
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There can be multiple reasons prosecutions are not pursued. One, if the violation is also federal, local prosecutors may leave it to the feds to pursue. There could have been a questionable search, which would exclude the evidence. The subjects arrested may have made a deal to snitch and downgrade the charges. The prosecutor may believe he can't prove the charge beyond a reasonsble doubt, in which case he cannot ethically pursue prosecution. The prosecution is so overburdened with serious crimes in many areas that they feel pressure to dispose of lesser cases by deal rather than going the long route to trial. Or the prosecutor may believe the law itself is unconstitutionally vague. So much back and forth negotiation goes on between the prosecutors and defense bar behind the scenes that is not reflected in statistics.

I think they are going about this all wrong. I would rather see enhanced sentences for using automatic weapons in a crime, and I want to see US attorneys prosecute gun crimes atop whatever local prosecutors are charging.
 
HayesGreener said:
I would rather see enhanced sentences for using automatic weapons in a crime
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No thank you.
We need to get back to the intent not the tool that was used. Make no difference if one is killed with an automatic weapon or bashing someone's head in with a rock.
Much like enhanced sentences for hate crimes. You can be fairly sure someone wasn't raped, robbed, murdered out of love.
 
bc22wm said:
No thank you.
We need to get back to the intent not the tool that was used. Make no difference if one is killed with an automatic weapon or bashing someone's head in with a rock.
Much like enhanced sentences for hate crimes. You can be fairly sure someone wasn't raped, robbed, murdered out of love.
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case in point, that young gal in the bus (or subway) down in i believe South Carolina, but that mental nut case....black man, killing a white woman should have been labeled a hate crime as well.....but on no.......that's wokeism BS to label the black guy doing a hate crime.....
 
HayesGreener said:
I think they are going about this all wrong. I would rather see enhanced sentences for using automatic weapons in a crime, and I want to see US attorneys prosecute gun crimes atop whatever local prosecutors are charging.
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Alabama went so far as to pass a law in 2025 making possession of the Glock smith now a class C felony.

A large number of cases - from what I understand - are juveniles with switches, and so the Legislature wanted to level more sever punishment and treat more juveniles as adult offenders.
 
Old_Me said:
case in point, that young gal in the bus (or subway) down in i believe South Carolina, but that mental nut case....black man, killing a white woman should have been labeled a hate crime as well.....but on no.......that's wokeism BS to label the black guy doing a hate crime.....
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I believe it was charged as hate crime at the Federal level.
But if it’s the one I’m thinking about, he is mentally I’ll and will be incarcerated pending this matter, and probably being evaluated and maybe treated.
 
Anchorite said:
I believe it was charged as hate crime at the Federal level.
But if it’s the one I’m thinking about, he is mentally I’ll and will be incarcerated pending this matter, and probably being evaluated and maybe treated.
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yes, the young blonde from the Ukraine.......that escaped her counntry to live free here...

if he was charged on a federal level...??? i was not recalling that.
 
Old_Me said:
yes, the young blonde from the Ukraine.......that escaped her counntry to live free here...

if he was charged on a federal level...??? i was not recalling that.
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I think he was, but I could be mistaken.

I do know he was undergoing mental evaluation after his arrest.

We have far too many mentally unfit and unstable people walking around.
 
On the micro level , it's " Siezures of Illegally Converted Glocks Up 500 % ! " When it's 2 up to 10 ( still infantesimal percentage of total .)

But the big picture;

Progressive Leftists Don't Care about reducing crime . Actually they want More crime .

The goal.is to create a climate of fear and desperation, to make the public want to give up their Rights and Freedoms, for an illusion of safety .
 
Hmmmm maybe its because theyve been claiming the justice system is RACIST for so long, that to go after the offenders would make them look like they were racists too.

Lets face it, theres a certain urban group that are using converted Glocks in the cities that isnt mirrored in suburban/rural areas. So they default to blaming the gun without blaming the special class of users
 
Here in Shelby County (Memphis area) there have been a number of people arrested with Glock "switches". It makes the local news, but I have yet to see any of them charged with possession of an illegal machine gun.
The local DA is a liberal democrat known to be soft on crime. I think that a big part of it is that a machine gun charge is federal and the libs don't want the feds getting in their way.
 
Anchorite said:
treat more juveniles as adult offenders.
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After say 13yrs(?), do an adult crime, then they need to do adult time. There are way too many junior thugs doing adult crimes knowing they are protected. No doubt many are "motivated" by adults; but being shot by a kid doesnt make you any less shot. Im pretty sure the Texas track meet stabbing incident just proved THAT; plus his bold assertion "I'm not alleged, I did it." He added, "He put his hands on me, I told him not to." Thats pretty bold for a kid. The question, is would he have been charged as an adult in Chicago or similar places?

Is it really any surprise that the places and DAs with the biggest "SWITCH" issues are all urban and liberal?
 
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PieterCoetzee said:
After say 13yrs(?), do an adult crime, then they need to do adult time. There are way too many junior thugs doing adult crimes knowing they are protected. No doubt many are "motivated" by adults; but being shot by a kid doesnt make you any less shot. Im pretty sure the Texas track meet stabbing incident just proved THAT; plus his bold assertion "I'm not alleged, I did it." He added, "He put his hands on me, I told him not to." Thats pretty bold for a kid. The question, is would he have been charged as an adult in Chicago or similar places?

Is it really any surprise that the places and DAs with the biggest "SWITCH" issues are all urban and liberal?
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I think a good first step toward this end would start reporting on the ages of the “persons of interest” when there is a shooting involving these illegally modified weapons, where it is obviously two groups of “social clubs” going after each other at an otherwise peaceable community event. Or using them to attack folks waiting in lines at movie theaters and nightclubs. Laws might prevent naming juveniles or providing photos of them, but it sure doesn’t prevent a reporting of ages of those involved or that it is suspected gang activity. Of course, the blue jurisdictions where these events most often happen like to pretend gangs either don’t exist or aren’t the problem.

I think if more law abiding citizens were aware most of the shooters were well under 18, using illegally possessed and illegally modified firearms, there might be more support for treating juveniles as adults, regardless of age in events like these.

Then again, we know Chicago and Illinois, LA and California, etc., political leadership will do everything in their power to completely control that narrative and blame society over the offenders.
 
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