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I took the Bersa TPR9 out for her "maiden run".

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Captain O

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The pistol ran 77 rounds of both 125 and 115-grain ammunition without any jams or stoppages. The pistol prefers 124-grain ammunition.

If you are considering buying a Bersa and are concerned about quality and reliability, relax. The trigger reset is lightning-quick, and the handgun's accuracy is excellent. The $450 "price of admission" is a bargain.

I am enjoying this handgun.
 
Thank you, sir. So many people criticize the Bersa "out of hand" without any experience. The engineers at Bersa have been "doing their homework" for 68+ years. These aren't "cheap" handguns, by any stretch. Bersa's recent venture into the AR and 1911 platforms has proven quite successful.

I'll put my Bersa pistols up against a large number of other, more expensive pistols on the market.
 
KillerFord1977 said:
I’ve always saw the Bersa as a “meh” looking pistol like so many others. Like the glock. Meh.
I’ve jeard good things about them, but they just dont scream “pick me up” to me. My 02 cents
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KillerFord1977 said:
I’ve always saw the Bersa as a “meh” looking pistol like so many others. Like the glock. Meh.
I’ve jeard good things about them, but they just dont scream “pick me up” to me. My 02 cents
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What makes them "beautiful" is how they function under pressure. They are a bit like the old tagline from the Bic ballpoint pen advertisements. The pistols work "first time, every time". This is why you buy a "working" handgun. While aesthetics are nice, "form follows function" is a highly important aspect of firearm production.

Recent Bersa pistols, such as the TPR series, have become a bit more "stylish" (taking on a Sig-like appearance). The TPR Series uses Sig-type sights and is directly interchangeable with them. The Argentinian Police and the National Army use their TPR9 Series pistols. Look it over and shoot it before passing judgment. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. You may come away with an entirely different perspective.

If you gave me a choice between my Thunder .32 and Walther PPK, I'd take the Bersa. Why? A 6-pound DA trigger pull and a 2-ounce lighter weight are my initial reasons. I can whip out my Thunder .32 and routinely dump 10 rounds of hot FMJ into a circle the size of a teacup in less time than it takes to tell.

The Thunder .32 is slightly larger than the Walther. This gives the shooter a bit more control. Accuracy accompanies this "minor sacrifice". I can live with this. The pistol carries with it a bit of the "Bond, James Bond" panache borrowed from the Walther. (I'll take that as well.)

The price point of the little pistol is the "icing on the cake". ($293.00 beats the heck out of $700.00+ for the Walther).
 
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The Bersa is like the other imported firearms they get trashed without any reason. I’ve owned a couple of Bersa’s that ran like sewing machines and people I know that own them and they only have positive things to say about the Bersa. If you like the Bersa Thunder and it’s accurate and reliable then that’s all that matters. I have a Rock Island 1911 in 10mm that I will never get rid of. I did put Wilson Combat parts in it and a STI trigger. Enjoy your Bersa train with it and most of all don’t rely on what other people have to say about it.
 
Captain O said:
Thank you, sir. So many people criticize the Bersa "out of hand" without any experience. The engineers at Bersa have been "doing their homework" for 68+ years. These aren't "cheap" handguns, by any stretch. Bersa's recent venture into the AR and 1911 platforms has proven quite successful.

I'll put my Bersa pistols up against a large number of other, more expensive pistols on the market.
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It’s the same with Taurus pistols, both of my GX4’s run flawless, but it is what it is, some don’t like Glock, Sig P320’s among others, as long as your satisfied, don’t worry about what others say or think….
 
Captain O said:
What makes them "beautiful" is how they function under pressure. They are a bit like the old tagline from the Bic ballpoint pen advertisements. The pistols work "first time, every time". This is why you buy a "working" handgun. While aesthetics are nice, "form follows function" is a highly important aspect of firearm production.

Recent Bersa pistols, such as the TPR series, have become a bit more "stylish" (taking on a Sig-like appearance). The TPR Series uses Sig-type sights and is directly interchangeable with them. The Argentinian Police and the National Army use their TPR9 Series pistols. Look it over and shoot it before passing judgment. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. You may come away with an entirely different perspective.

If you gave me a choice between my Thunder .32 and Walther PPK, I'd take the Bersa. Why? A 6-pound DA trigger pull and a 2-ounce lighter weight are my initial reasons. I can whip out my Thunder .32 and routinely dump 10 rounds of hot FMJ into a circle the size of a teacup in less time than it takes to tell.

The Thunder .32 is slightly larger than the Walther. This gives the shooter a bit more control. Accuracy accompanies this "minor sacrifice". I can live with this. The pistol carries with it a bit of the "Bond, James Bond" panache borrowed from the Walther. (I'll take that as well.)

The price point of the little pistol is the "icing on the cake". ($293.00 beats the heck out of $700.00+ for the Walther).
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My working handgun is a VP9.
I like the look and its quality as well that goes bang everytime. Like I said, the Bersa looks meh to me. I didnt knock its quality. Its prob a fine handgun. Just not for me
 
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KillerFord1977 said:
My working handgun is a VP9.
I like the look and its quality as well that goes bamg everytime. Like I said, the Bersa looks meh to me. I didnt knock its quality. Its prob a fine handgun. Just not for me
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I'll buy that. I have nothing against handguns that function well and shoot accurately. Frankly, I'd like to see a return ot the Ruger P89 and another run of a properly-engineered Bren Ten (I loved the 5" barreled version of the pistol).

The S&W 1006 would be a great, new/old pistol. Hell for stout, it can take the original 200-grain 1200 fps Norma loads without difficulty. I love the original 170-grain load velocity.


200gr JTC @ 1200 fps 635 Ft/Lbs Norma Ref #11001
170gr JHP @ 1300 fps 636 Ft/Lbs Norma Ref #11002
165gr JHP @ 1400 fps 719 Ft/Lbs Norma Ref #11002 (Sample labeled as 165 gr was 170gr)

The last load was what I had in mind for a butt-stomping antipersonnel load. Hard-hitting, coupled with penetration and expansion. What more could you ask?
 
Taurus handguns are generally very good, while some models seem a bit of a crapshoot. They have come a long way since their primary reputation as a jam-o-matic was "ironed out". Some say the GC3 (or GX3?) has had some difficulty with both accuracy and inherent stability.

Honest Outlaw had one nearly come apart in his hand while reviewing the pistol on camera. I wouldn't dismiss an entire line because one example evaded an otherwise tight QC process.
 
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Captain O said:
The pistol ran 77 rounds of both 125 and 115-grain ammunition without any jams or stoppages. The pistol prefers 124-grain ammunition.

If you are considering buying a Bersa and are concerned about quality and reliability, relax. The trigger reset is lightning-quick, and the handgun's accuracy is excellent. The $450 "price of admission" is a bargain.

I am enjoying this handgun.
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Ok couple questions to lazy to google it 😆. Is this gun optic cut? And what is the recoil impulse like. I bought an Sig P226 a few years ago that was chambered in 40 S&W police trade in. The gun and and 500rds was less than $300. But the recoil was horrible on this gun. With a high bore axis's recoil was worse than my 1911 shooting hot 10mm ammo. So what’s the recoil like on the Bersa? Compared to say a polymer gun in 9mm. I traded the Sig and ammo for an AR with optic and a hundred rounds of HP 223 ammo I still have the AR.
 
Captain O said:
I'll buy that. I have nothing against handguns that function well and shoot accurately. Frankly, I'd like to see a return ot the Ruger P89 and another run of a properly-engineered Bren Ten (I loved the 5" barreled version of the pistol).

The S&W 1006 would be a great, new/old pistol. Hell for stout, it can take the original 200-grain 1200 fps Norma loads without difficulty. I love the original 170-grain load velocity.


200gr JTC @ 1200 fps 635 Ft/Lbs Norma Ref #11001
170gr JHP @ 1300 fps 636 Ft/Lbs Norma Ref #11002
165gr JHP @ 1400 fps 719 Ft/Lbs Norma Ref #11002 (Sample labeled as 165 gr was 170gr)

The last load was what I had in mind for a butt-stomping antipersonnel load. Hard-hitting, coupled with penetration and expansion. What more could you ask?
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The first 10mm FBI load was a 220 grain Truncated Cone bullet at 1400 feet per second that’s 957 foot pounds of energy. That’s on par with a 41 magnum which is the caliber they were trying to replicate out of a semiautomatic pistol. The guns broke and 80% of the FBI could not qualify with it. Also the 10mm had to go into a frame that was the size of a double stack 45acp that also hindered most people from being able to handle the guns and loads. Hence came the 40 S&W allowing for a 9mm size grip and still have a larger heavier projectile in gel it got more penetration than the 9mm ammo at the time. The 180 grain bullet at 1050 feet per second and a capacity of 13 rds handgun was adopted. But in the long run it was no better than the 9mm plus bullet technology changed and the 9mm passed the requirements of the FBI ammunition protocol. And the 9mm was cheaper and that pleased the bean counters. There is no perfect handgun caliber. If it has enough power it’s hard to handle. You can’t break the laws of physics no matter how badly you want or need to.
 
The recoil impulse is relatively light. The pistol is only set up for Sig iron sights and has a rail on the frame for a light. This pistol is issued to the Argentine National Police. I had no problem controlling the pistol at all. It is a little thicker than my Girsan MC P35 "Hi-Power" clone. (I really enjoy shooting the Girsan). The pistol weighs 30.7 ounces empty. (You have to figure out how it compares to a polymer-framed pistol yourself).

I have four polymer-framed pistols (a Glock Model 20, a Kel-Tec P11, a Kel-Tec P32, and a Ruger LCP).
 
Captain O said:
The recoil impulse is relatively light. The pistol is only set up for Sig iron sights and has a rail on the frame for a light. This pistol is issued to the Argentine National Police. I had no problem controlling the pistol at all. It is a little thicker than my Girsan MC P35 "Hi-Power" clone. (I really enjoy shooting the Girsan). The pistol weighs 30.7 ounces empty. (You have to figure out how it compares to a polymer-framed pistol yourself).

I have four polymer-framed pistols (a Glock Model 20, a Kel-Tec P11, a Kel-Tec P32, and a Ruger LCP).
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No plans to buy one I was just curious. The 226 is not one on my want to have list. The only reason I bought the one I did was there was so many being traded in along with the ammo by many police departments. They were dirt cheap especially the ones that had the DAK triggers. I bought one shot it didn’t like it got rid of it so that was the end of me wanting an Sig P226. If you like the Bersa by all means enjoy it carry it and train with it. Like I have said in other post the Bersa gets 💩 on by people who have never even shot one.
 
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