More magazine capacity
- Thread starter BruceMc
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This. Do NOt substitute capacity for skill. Sadly I suspect a lot of people do. I’ve seen some clowns at the LGS's range who thought you were unarmed unless you had at least 15 on board get cleaned on a pin shoot by a dude with a Smith revolver
Retired Bum
Professional
The spray and pray concept was cemented during the Vietnam era with 30 round magazines. I don't recall exactly what the numbers were, but I read somewhere else that over 50K rounds were expended for each casualty in VN.
Those numbers are up significantly from WW I and II
Those numbers are up significantly from WW I and II
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1canvas
Elite
50k, nope.
Model 457
Custom
I can hit the broad side of the barn every single time! from the inside.......
Retired Bum
Professional
Well, what would be the correct number? This is reported via the Internet...
The U.S. military consumed an estimated 50,000 rounds of small arms ammunition for every enemy soldier killed during the Vietnam War.Factors in Ammunition ExpenditureSuppressive Fire: Most rounds were used in tactical suppressive fire to pin down or deter the enemy rather than for direct hits.Jungle Terrain: Dense foliage limited visibility, increasing the volume of blind or semi-directed automatic fire.Weapon Technology: The adoption of the M16 rifle allowed for high-rate, controllable automatic and semi-automatic firing capabilities.
HayesGreener
SAINT
Near many of our bases that were continually probed by the enemy, we would randomly fire directed harrassment and interdiction fire, or H&I or mad minute fire, to make it dangerous for anyone to be out there. I burned through a crapload of H&I rounds on the base perimeter. It was a hoot and impressive when you got everybody doing it. Gunships did similar mad minutes. I don't think we ever expected to kill anybody with H&I, it was more psyop than anything.
1canvas
Elite
50,000 rounds weigh over 13000 pounds, that’s a mighty lot of ammo for one kill
, but if you include suppressive fire that’s possible, especially from mini guns shooting from gun ships. But then you have another problem with the calculation, body count under those condiitions can only be a guesstimate at best. At 1300 pounds per body few on the ground would ever see a dead body.Retired Bum
Professional
I've no idea how the numbers people in the military tally these things, I'm only able to use the data as provided. I'll poke around and see what they say about the sandbox battles.
OldGrunt
Hellcat
Same. J-Frame in a pocket holster, right front pocket, 2-5 round speed strips in my left front pocket. I'm not on a mission to take out bin Laden. I just go to town occasionally to pick up a few things.
1canvas
Elite
I have also been carrying my J-Frame more often after many years of not, another step after moving to single stacks in my autos.
1canvas
Elite
Although I carry my J-Frame more nowadays, there are distinct advantages to a reliable auto. Although I have a half a dozen high capacity Glocks, for general carry my single stacks fit a nitch in between high capacity Glocks and my J-Frame. My two favorites are the S&W Shield line with the 9mm for warm weather and .45 for cold, all loaded with Federal HST ammo.
My other two single stacks are a Glock 43X and a Ruger Ec9s.
If I am with my wife or others i need to protect I will carry an auto
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Jsimon78
Professional
Don’t disturb than at night
Anchorite
Professional
I'm interested in what Walther comes up as they are working on updating their lineup.Although I carry my J-Frame more nowadays, there are distinct advantages to a reliable auto. Although I have a half a dozen high capacity Glocks, for general carry my single stacks fit a nitch in between high capacity Glocks and my J-Frame. My two favorites are the S&W Shield line with the 9mm for warm weather and .45 for cold, all loaded with Federal HST ammo.
My other two single stacks are a Glock 43X and a Ruger Ec9s.
If I am with my wife or others i need to protect I will carry an auto
MiataMinded
Elite
I started carrying a small waist pack a few months ago and it's revolutionized the amount of ammo I can carry easily. In a tiny 1.5L pack I can easily keep 2-4 spare 15 round magazines along with my wallet/keys etc all tucked in nice and secure. I find myself carrying 4x extra 15rd magazines just because.
So with the rounds on my gun itself, I'm usually carrying ~75 rounds every day. Has nothing to do with feeling like I'm going to run into a terrorist and more just because it's easy.
So with the rounds on my gun itself, I'm usually carrying ~75 rounds every day. Has nothing to do with feeling like I'm going to run into a terrorist and more just because it's easy.
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