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I believe the point of the data is the shootings (no matter who prevailed) started close in. The connection between LE and private citizen shoktings is Cops have to be close to suspects to interview/investigate and arrest them and Private Citizen the bad guy has to be close to Rob/harm or in...

I will add one thjng I have observed and Daryl Bolke (who has been in several shootings if his own and investigated several of his own agency) and John Hearn had mentioned it in depth whem we talked (of you don’t know who Daryl Bolke and John Hearne are they are pretty relevant in the teainjng...

That was me he lost his s&$t over I use to say God gave me a voice that matched my face and people hear my tone or look at my face and think I am mad or something…..I guess they read my typing and that pushes buttons too! IdK

The Jack Ruby quite is good as is the “At bad breath distance” is

US Capital Police dabbled with them. If they still use them not sure. US Secret Service dumped the 5.7 and P90 as well as others have in short order and that should tell you everythjng you need to know. Unless one is into novelty stuff As far as HK. (And I didn’t watch the video ) I don’t...

I feel the same way. However uiu would be supervised the pushback I get. Like look everyone can carry whatever but the chance of multiple mags being needed as well as a 50 yard zero with an optic is probably overthinking it.

Which this is right on par with Tom Givens data of his Rangemaster students that were in shootings as well.

Here’s some interesting info John Hearne shared as part of his Monday Nerd nuggets on his training page (Two Pillars Training on FB) Included is a pic for those that want to throw arguments at what they witnessed (or more likely heard) about in their agency echo chamber and somt was to read to...

That is am antiquated statement that is no longer true. The current crop of quality OC nobody gets totally immune. The watered down stuff they used for gas houses in the Military isn’t in the same category. I have administered OC in several dozen Use of Force incidents and witnessed or did...

I run a S&W Wheelguns a lot. I have several K frames and 686 .one of my favorite is a Model 64 bobbed hammer DAO effectively a NY-1

Well since we are all getting older here’s some humor. My disclaimer I started with a Model 15 in the USAF and like DA revolvers, DA/SA and GK LEM Autos and 1911’s

On race guns while there is night and day difference on running a cyclic USPSA stage where defensive use you won’t (or shouldn’t) go quite that fast (why mag capacity and high bore axis are over stated) A lot of “race gun” stuff is being pushed as necessities for defensive use. folks can...

They still train with a variety of shokters to include Ben Stoegers. They also invite in several UFC fighters as they do race car drivers. A gunfight is a competitive event with much higher stakes! I get the comped out raceguns and such but there is nothing wrong with wringing out your gear...

This argument has been around for a quite a while. Most of us quit buying into it.Most people need to work on their shootjng skills before worrying about a gunfight. The benefit of say USPSA is you learn to run your gun and gear at different angles approaches etc It is beneficial however...

Do your research. Not all are the same, in fact one well known self defense insurance came into an NRA class that was required for a state CCW class and did their spiel. My issue was it was nothing but fear mongering and basically the lugnut took a gun to someone else’s civil issue (a repo)...

While a couple state agencies recently went 320 in LE sales Sig is loosing big. Several agencies equating way more than what couple state PD’s contract is have dumped 320 and went to S&W M&P Glock or FN. Two big agencies are OK City (HK VP9) and Toledo (M&P 9 Metal the aluminum Black LE...

Yawn!!!! People worry to much about crunching numbers. 1 A 45 acp is more than a 9mm. 2 Magnum pistol rounds are more than 45 acp 3 split times are a competitive thing , .50 or so you will be just fine (ask LAPD and LAPD SWAT 4 if your gun comes with a 15 round mag instead of a 17 round...

While everyone can do whatever, the perception that one as a private citizen operates in complete and totally darkness to utilize a WML as someone performing Military or LE duties would is way way over emphasized. While my privious answer was half sarcastic Hal’s serious I am old enough to...

It never awed me. I get the craze over Suppressors sells it and if that’s your thing it’s a good option for folks. Like having and carrying a revolver if you like it use it, if not there are other options!

Well I am old enough that we had Maglights with a blinding 50-75 Lumens and thought we turned night into day back then!