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OH heck, I've been sucked for years. these are the .38 sp conversions and my hand carved antique type eagles. ivory is from a piano synthetic ivroy. great stuff. enjoy the gunporn. Ken

I just bought one. a week old. perfect gun. steel and walnut the way a gun should be. The 9mm is basically free to shoot so no reloading problelms. ONE THING the magazine reloaders do not work with this. I tried a couple and no go ($40) I won't mention name because they are nice...