A marketing tool to a point I agree. However there is a such thing as "Close Quarters Battle." Especially in and around buildings and other Urban Combat scenerios. Either way we are bother getting off course of this particular thread on the forum
It's a marketing tool, but then so is "Sub MOA". I mean we all still train for it so the products we buy to train will be designed for it.
An argument could be made that all shotguns are CQB. Certainly all smaller/tactical shotguns. It hasn't stopped me from trying to buy one of every single shotgun on the planet apparently.
Hello all, here is today's article posted on TheArmoryLife.com. It is titled "Taking the M1A to Half-MOA — M1A Loaded Precision FDE" and can be found at https://www.thearmorylife.com/taking-the-m1a-to-half-moa-m1a-loaded-precision-fde/.
In my opinion it all depends on the model. A standard M1A is a 1.5 to 2 MOA rifle out of the box. The National Match model probably shoots straighter than that, but I'm not sure. I've never shot one. I have two M1A's. The Scout Squad and the SOCOM CQB. I can tell you The Scout is a 1.5 to 2 MOA carbine out of the box. The best I've done with it was ringing a 15" gong consistantly from a rest shot after shot at 350yds witch is plenty satisfactory for me out of a Scout style carbine with an 18 or 18.5 incn barrel. My SOCOM is a CQB weapon with a non magnified optic so I dialed it in at 50 yrds and was ringing a 12" gong consistantly at 100yds witch was also plenty satisfactory for me out of a CQB carbine. However, Neither the Scout nor the SOCOM were designed for extreme or even long range shooting. You'd be better of with the M1A "Loaded" or "National Match" models for that with thier 22" match grade barrels. Once again this all just my opinion brother. Hope this helps. Shoot fun, Shoot safe and Shoot straight!
Thanks everyone, I guess I bought the wrong gun. I know it's a battle axe but I was looking for a little more precision. If the gun is a 2 MOA then I'll be lucky to shoot a 3 to 3 1/2 or 4 MOA.
Thanks everyone, I guess I bought the wrong gun. I know it's a battle axe but I was looking for a little more precision. If the gun is a 2 MOA then I'll be lucky to shoot a 3 to 3 1/2 or 4 MOA.
If you're looking for a long range precision platform. Look into a bolt gun. You can find many different makes and models at very affordable prices. The right model M1A can be a long range gun but your going to pay for it right out of the box and it's still probably going to take some after market parts and gunsmithing. Just my opinion bud.
If you're looking for a long range precision platform. Look into a bolt gun. You can find many different makes and models at very affordable prices. The right model M1A can be a long range gun but your going to pay for it right out of the box and it's still probably going to take some after market parts and gunsmithing. Just my opinion bud.
Thanks everyone, I guess I bought the wrong gun. I know it's a battle axe but I was looking for a little more precision. If the gun is a 2 MOA then I'll be lucky to shoot a 3 to 3 1/2 or 4 MOA.
I think KillerFord is right. A 2 MOA rifle is a very capable firearm. They make left handed bolt guns too, but if you're set on a specific action or platform I totally understand that also. Hope you find what you're looking for. Shoot fun, shoot safe and shoot straight!
Exactly.
1-2 or 3-4 MOA is still center mass and even when the Zombies attack the average head is big enough within those parameters. The only difference worthy of discussing is the length of the barrel for CQ defense since we all know Zombies move fast and roam in packs and can be in your face quickly.
Donnie, you may not like bolts (either right or left), in general, but I figured I'd post the video below which shows Ryan Gresham with a Savage straight pull bolt rifle, that can be set up as either bolt on right, or bolt on left. Since he's a lefty, he set it up on the left. It's a short video (approximatly 2:35, add it looks like that Savage has a nice trigger too). Just showing their are options in bolt rifles, or maybe just going with another AR10 style semi auto rifle might work for you.
So you got a new gun and can’t wait to get out to the range with it, right? Guns & Gear’s Ryan Gresham presents several tips to help you get familiar with...
Exactly.
1-2 or 3-4 MOA is still center mass and even when the Zombies attack the average head is big enough within those parameters. The only difference worthy of discussing is the length of the barrel for CQ defense since we all know Zombies move fast and roam in packs and can be in your face quickly.
Exactly.
1-2 or 3-4 MOA is still center mass and even when the Zombies attack the average head is big enough within those parameters. The only difference worthy of discussing is the length of the barrel for CQ defense since we all know Zombies move fast and roam in packs and can be in your face quickly.
Donnie, you may not like bolts (either right or left), in general, but I figured I'd post the video below which shows Ryan Gresham with a Savage straight pull bolt rifle, that can be set up as either bolt on right, or bolt on left. Since he's a lefty, he set it up on the left. It's a short video (approximatly 2:35, add it looks like that Savage has a nice trigger too). Just showing their are options in bolt rifles, or maybe just going with another AR10 style semi auto rifle might work for you.
So you got a new gun and can’t wait to get out to the range with it, right? Guns & Gear’s Ryan Gresham presents several tips to help you get familiar with...
I love Savage bolt guns! You can't do better for the price in my opinion. I have two of them and the optics mounted on them cost as much or more that the rifles them selves! They shoot super straight too! Both were and are Sub MOA out of the box, and that's no s**t!!! Shoot fun, shoot safe and shoot straight!