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Ace Virtual Shooting Simulator: Range Time at Home

What a poorly written article.

“Ace Virtual Shooting is built by people who shoot themselves“

Grammar matters kids.

The company’s key goal has also been to eliminate “the friction” involved with a live-fire range trip. That includes the time-consuming set-up steps like cleaning guns, scheduling with friends, scheduling childcare, packing the car, and driving long distances.

“Once you’re at the range, you have to set up targets, track scores, pick up brass, engage with range staff, and pack and reload the car when you’re done,” Donahue continued. “Once you’re home, you need to unpack the car and clean your equipment again. All of these things tend to reduce the frequency most shooters can get to the range. As a result, the vast majority of gun owners shoot only a few times a year.”

I don’t want to be insensitive, but I’m curious how many of us really find a trip to the range this laborious.

The product kind of seems cool although I question the long term attraction of going to the virtual range without a virtual @killerford to share a beer with afterward. And their stated market of 50,60,70 year olds is admirable but people in that age group often have trouble with VR systems because of depth perception/vision issues, and the vestibular system that controls balance becomes less reliable with age.
But that’s also the age that’s going to dig shooting a 1911, so there’s that!

I’ll probably stick with Call of Duty. For transparency, I overloaded my system flying with VR aerial combat systems to the point that just looking at a VR headset gives me motion sickness.

That’s all I have. If you want to discuss this further you can find me at the real range.
 
I don't know if I can justify the $949 cost for something that requires a monthly membership to use the system. So, if I buy their kit and membership, and decide I no longer want/can afford the membership, then I have a high tech paperweight? No thank you. I am sure there are those out there that look at what is involved with going to the range as a pain in the neck, but most of us find it therapeutic. I look forward to some range time to re-acquaint myself with my firearms, relieve some stress, test some upgrades, sustain my skills with my CCW, etc. I don't get to the range as often as I would like to, but it is a day to look forward to when I do. It is also, more importantly, a time with friends, family, etc. After the scamdemic, human interaction is much more important..............at least with those you know and trust. The rest of the populace..............? If you can afford this and justify the cost for this, this is may be a way to get those who are on the fence or hesitant about firearms to at least have a way to see what we do without the actual "scary" handling of a handgun. It might even get them to the range for a real life experience. Just a thought. Hey, this could be something for those family gatherings when the weather is not so cooperative for outdoor activities.
 
SimonRL said:
What a poorly written article.

“Ace Virtual Shooting is built by people who shoot themselves“

Grammar matters kids.

The company’s key goal has also been to eliminate “the friction” involved with a live-fire range trip. That includes the time-consuming set-up steps like cleaning guns, scheduling with friends, scheduling childcare, packing the car, and driving long distances.

“Once you’re at the range, you have to set up targets, track scores, pick up brass, engage with range staff, and pack and reload the car when you’re done,” Donahue continued. “Once you’re home, you need to unpack the car and clean your equipment again. All of these things tend to reduce the frequency most shooters can get to the range. As a result, the vast majority of gun owners shoot only a few times a year.”

I don’t want to be insensitive, but I’m curious how many of us really find a trip to the range this laborious.

The product kind of seems cool although I question the long term attraction of going to the virtual range without a virtual @killerford to share a beer with afterward. And their stated market of 50,60,70 year olds is admirable but people in that age group often have trouble with VR systems because of depth perception/vision issues, and the vestibular system that controls balance becomes less reliable with age.
But that’s also the age that’s going to dig shooting a 1911, so there’s that!

I’ll probably stick with Call of Duty. For transparency, I overloaded my system flying with VR aerial combat systems to the point that just looking at a VR headset gives me motion sickness.

That’s all I have. If you want to discuss this further you can find me at the real range.
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I must agree with this.
 
Took the youngins’ Duck Huntin’
today.
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Hi,

This system has some advantages over my basement laser range, but the same drawback. I suppose someone who competes seriously at a very high level could used this tool to hone skills on the course, except for recoil management.

Is the pistol active at all? Does it give you any kinetic feedback? Can you practice tactical or emergency/slidelock reloads? I can practice mag changes on my basement laser range.

It might appeal to someone new to USPSA or Steel Challenge competitions. They could get a lot of experience running the courses and be better prepared for a live competition. You'd have to be really committed to invest nearly a grand for a training tool. My laser setup was less than $100. To be honest, I'm a little tempted. I've been considering some local competition and it would be nice to get somewhat up to speed before wasting a lot of time on the range.

And it's true that not everyone is blessed like I am, having two indoor ranges within 8 miles and a couple of outdoor ranges only 30 miles away. But it's really not that much of a hassle for me to go to the range. I guess that's why I do it so often.

Still, this will have its appeal to those that need it. It seems like a slick system. Maybe when/if the price goes down it will appeal to a wider user base. I think it's a good thing. It looks like fun. Thanks for sharing.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Hi,

PieterCoetzee said:
For starters I would prefer a handgun that I use, which is why I prefer the "laser" types systems. Id also prefer a scenario rather than a "match" type target game.
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Ace has several handsets available. I'm sure there's more to come.

www.acexr.com

Ace Handsets - Ace Virtual Shooting Dryfire Shooting Simulator — Ace - Immersive Shooting Experience

Unlock Virtual Realism. It starts with what you feel in your hands. Details matter. The Trigger. The Size. The Weight. Years of meticulous design, rigorous testing, and detailed craftsmanship led us here. The Ace Arctus Handset for Meta Quest 2 and Quest 3 is the key that unlocks that experience.
www.acexr.com www.acexr.com

It looks like they have software for several training scenarios, different ranges, not just a competition simulator. Probably more to come as well.

Ace VR App and Shooting Simulators for Meta Quest 2, 3, and 3S — Ace - Immersive Shooting Experience

Ace’s VR App has shooting simulators for everyone. Train on 100+ shooting stages with new pistol training drills added regularly. Build your skills with real time performance metrics for speed and accuracy. Compete on the global live leaderboards. Play with friends in multiplayer duels. Collect bran
www.acexr.com www.acexr.com


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
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As I recall, they have a monthly recurring fee. The one thing that STOPS me from buying this is that monthly recurring fee. I would love to purchase this, even at $100 to $200. (Did I read someone wrote $949?) I'm not paying ongoing monthly fee's to shoot virtually on my headset. Nope. No way. $949? Seriously??????
 
Appraiser REALTOR said:
As I recall, they have a monthly recurring fee. The one thing that STOPS me from buying this is that monthly recurring fee. I would love to purchase this, even at $100 to $200. (Did I read someone wrote $949?) I'm not paying ongoing monthly fee's to shoot virtually on my headset. Nope. No way. $949? Seriously??????
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150% Agree, I was excited about this till the Monthly Fee part? I just said Nope... no Thanks...
 
Appraiser REALTOR said:
As I recall, they have a monthly recurring fee. The one thing that STOPS me from buying this is that monthly recurring fee. I would love to purchase this, even at $100 to $200. (Did I read someone wrote $949?) I'm not paying ongoing monthly fee's to shoot virtually on my headset. Nope. No way. $949? Seriously??????
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Meta Quest 3 VR Headset @$369 (Amazon), "Handsets"-$199, Membership for the APP-$19/mo($228 ann) or $168 Annually ($14/mo). @$736 to $796 initial cost. $949 bundled through Ace. Of course, you need the software/app to use the system which means the continuing membership, or trying to find another app that will work with their "Handset", and, should your system become outdated, you would need to upgrade eventually. And, if the company goes under/bought out by another, you may be stuck with an expensive toy gun that doesn't work, but makes a nice centerpiece. Great idea, limited viability as far as being future proof.
 
I've got the headset. Have been using it for just over 2 years to play Walk About miniature golf with friends all over the country/world. That game was $39.99. Each new golf game they come out with is $4.99. But $949? And a monthly fee? Not a chance. Costs me $25 for all day at the local range. That's nearly 40 visits.
 
Changed my mind, don’t want it until it is a self-contained capability not requiring online connectivity. No tether, No leash.
Should come with a few basic range scenarios. Advanced range/match scenarios should be available for purchase via download or sim card or thumb drive. Bluetooth between handset and headset? Maybe? Proprietary link? Hardwire cable capability as backup? Interaction capability between headsets for match/range competitions?
The above mentioned capabilities already exist in drone technology, should be easy to resource and come a lot closer to validating the $1,009 plus shipping price tag.
 
$199 for the handset, plus the subscription, and more of you don't have the VR headset.

Train like you fight - for that money, even just for the handset, I want recoil and actual mag changes. I want fine-tuned sight presentation to ensure that when I raise the pistol in my sight picture, it's 99.9% accurate to my real presentation. Otherwise, you're reinforcing "ghost" skills that don't help you in the comp, or worse - when your life is in the balance.

We have a Logitech G50 racing cockpit for my Son's playstation. For $1,000, we got an adjustable GT (sports car) racing seat, a three-pedal setup with adjustable brake and clutch travel and pressure, and a steering wheel that provides physics-based, actual feedback - if you crash at race speeds, it will jerk that wheel out of your hands, and racing lap after lap in GT3 class cars, your arms get tired. THAT is the real deal.

That said - my Dad, who is in his 80's, might like this for all the reasons in the article. He would like it even better if he could have a shotgun that was weighted just like his, for a truly modern Duck Hunt / realistic sporting clays experience.
 
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