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Always Be Ready: What’s In Your FEAR Bag?

Anchorite said:
Some good ideas in this thread, and I get the premise, but that premise is, I think, somewhat flawed.

If there is civil unrest, I am not out and running errands. I am close to my camp, hunkering down, and hyper-vigilante. Civil unrest does not occur in a vacuum. In today's world, there is plenty of news/intel that anyone with a pulse can be alerted to an, about to-SHTF situation.

In a natural disaster, the first thing that comes to my mind because I live within miles of the coast is a bad hurricane .... but again, lots of advanced warnings. So, I think that the natural disaster is more likely to be a catastrophic quake, like Kalifornia slides off into the Pacific, than a weather event. But quakes tend to have lots of smaller warning quakes, from what I've read. Even Mt. St. Helen's gave everyone months of warning.

Here on the Gulf Coast, we think more like bug-in and keep +/- 96 hours of supplies on hand.

Maybe an EMP? There again, I have my (unscientifically verified) doubts one would disable the entire US grid. So not really a FEAR-bag as much as a get home bag.

Maybe a Red Dawn scenario? Maybe .....

The lesson is that you have some things with you, no matter the event.

I welcome any additional thoughts on the topic.
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Hmmmm? its always good to question, thats how we refine our position. I very much do agree that when things are BAD you dont want to be where they are WORSE

In reference to the Civil Unrest issue, perhaps it occurs when you are out. In todays world, it only takes one court ruling that some folks dont like. Im guessing you arent going to stay at home just because the court may issue a ruling today. When I was a Cop, we called bags like these "Get Home Bags" but a FEAR bag (I think) is a smaller kit intended to dive out of the car in an emergency that occured without warning.

I was a KID in Baltimore during the '68 riots; but recall my folks and friends having a bag with extra comfortable clothes and shoes (mom always wore high heels to work), incase they had to take shelter someplace. During the Freddie Gray riots in Baltimore, I made sure I was ready to go to the range (that was my story anyway) every day I left the house. I lived just outside the city at that time but close enuf to a golden highway to the burbs, that on the first day, I went to the grocery store with a "Tennis Racket Bag" in my shopping cart.

About 15 years ago Maryland was hit by a pretty good hurricane (at least for us). My house survived with nothing more than a few branches in the yard; but the neighborhood wasnt as lucky. There were reports of looting on the PD radio, thankfully not close to me; but still looting. So as I walked around the neighborhood to access the damage and help a few neighbors, I carried a Glock based PDW under my jacket and a bag full of trauma gear incase anyone was injured.

Knowing something is going to happen is great but its the out of the blue events that perhaps we should plan for most
 
KillerFord1977 said:
My bag isnt a bag for shtf but for being stranded. I hunt in some areas where its a hike to get back to someone. For Texas or other N states, i keep tools, water, and clothing dependant on season like rain gear, hats, gloves, etc & light equipment. Its more about getting stuck or truck break down than rogue assailants or such. I’m always armed, so thats not an issue. Its more of so I have the items needed to hike out or stay put for a bit, then get to somewhere
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and a vehicle makes for a good, albeit temporary, LUP.
 
I've said for years, always carry a pocket knife and a lighter. With the most basic of tools and a means of making fire, a smart man can survive just about anything.
While the FEAR bag is an interesting concept, for me the operative word is RUN. At my age and condition, that ain't happening. I guess I'm just doomed. :rolleyes:
 
Ive got an OLD (think late 19th century) British field manual, that discusses how to sheeet in the field without needing to wipe. Its all about "the stance and position"
 
PieterCoetzee said:
Hmmmm? its always good to question, thats how we refine our position. I very much do agree that when things are BAD you dont want to be where they are WORSE

In reference to the Civil Unrest issue, perhaps it occurs when you are out. In todays world, it only takes one court ruling that some folks dont like. Im guessing you arent going to stay at home just because the court may issue a ruling today. When I was a Cop, we called bags like these "Get Home Bags" but a FEAR bag (I think) is a smaller kit intended to dive out of the car in an emergency that occured without warning.

I was a KID in Baltimore during the '68 riots; but recall my folks and friends having a bag with extra comfortable clothes and shoes (mom always wore high heels to work), incase they had to take shelter someplace. During the Freddie Gray riots in Baltimore, I made sure I was ready to go to the range (that was my story anyway) every day I left the house. I lived just outside the city at that time but close enuf to a golden highway to the burbs, that on the first day, I went to the grocery store with a "Tennis Racket Bag" in my shopping cart.

About 15 years ago Maryland was hit by a pretty good hurricane (at least for us). My house survived with nothing more than a few branches in the yard; but the neighborhood wasnt as lucky. There were reports of looting on the PD radio, thankfully not close to me; but still looting. So as I walked around the neighborhood to access the damage and help a few neighbors, I carried a Glock based PDW under my jacket and a bag full of trauma gear incase anyone was injured.

Knowing something is going to happen is great but its the out of the blue events that perhaps we should plan for most
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The example in the OP article was stranded in your car, and a Molotov cocktail gets tossed at your car.

If I'm stuck in traffic, first off, I am a dumb a** for getting into that situation. Secondly, if we are ALL stopped, I am out of the car immediately and on the move. I think if you stay put, you're dead, so that bag in the back seat of my F150 is coming with me....not some tiny man-purse with just enough to get me out of the immediate area.

Like I said, I get the idea, but it's like boat engines and off shore fishing .... one is none and two is one ...
I'm just not going to make the mistake in the first place if I can absolutely help it, and I'm heading into hostile territory (which is increasingly larger metropolitan areas).
Why have a FEAR bag and not a REAL bag...Realize Everything and Appropriately SuppLy.

IOW, a FEAR bag seems like a seriously flawed compromise.
 
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Grayfox said:
I've said for years, always carry a pocket knife and a lighter. With the most basic of tools and a means of making fire, a smart man can survive just about anything.
While the FEAR bag is an interesting concept, for me the operative word is RUN. At my age and condition, that ain't happening. I guess I'm just doomed. :rolleyes:
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Keep a couple of knives in the truck, at the camp, around the house. Same with Bic lighters.
Those two, and a country boy can survive.
 
IDK, maybe this is being a bit too paranoid. If the goal is to survive for 24 hours, I can get by on just what's in my pockets. Having that other stuff might be nice, but I can do without it.
Besides, if the situation is that dire, will you even think to grab the FEAR bag? Or will instinct take over and you just run?
Unless there is some sort of major catastrophe, just making it out of the immediate area should be enough.
 
Anchorite said:
The example in the OP article was stranded in your car, and a Molotov cocktail gets tossed at your car.

If I'm stuck in traffic, first off, I am a dumb a** for getting into that situation. Secondly, if we are ALL stopped, I am out of the car immediately and on the move. I think if you stay put, you're dead, so that bag in the back seat of my F150 is coming with me....not some tiny man-purse with just enough to get me out of the immediate area.

Like I said, I get the idea, but it's like boat engines and off shore fishing .... one is none and two is one ...
I'm just not going to make the mistake in the first place if I can absolutely help it, and I'm heading into hostile territory (which is increasingly larger metropolitan areas).
Why have a FEAR bag and not a REAL bag...Realize Everything and Appropriately SuppLy.

IOW, a FEAR bag seems like a seriously flawed compromise.
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Good points.

I always figured that a roadblock made out of people was more of a speed bump than a block (assuming you have a full size vehicle). I drive a 4 door jeep for lots of reasons but pushing through a human roadblock is one. If its a freeway take over, putting your car in DRIVE and letting the transmission pull you forward is enough to gently push through a crowd. IF they get violent then the gas peddle is the short answer. Caution, hitting too fast will cause the airbag to deploy and the engine cut off to disable the vehicle; so theres a happy medium.

I used to keep a Tac-14 next to the transmission hump for crowds. Now I keep a couple IWI Flash Bangs and Pepper Grenades
 
PieterCoetzee said:
Good points.

I always figured that a roadblock made out of people was more of a speed bump than a block (assuming you have a full size vehicle). I drive a 4 door jeep for lots of reasons but pushing through a human roadblock is one. If its a freeway take over, putting your car in DRIVE and letting the transmission pull you forward is enough to gently push through a crowd. IF they get violent then the gas peddle is the short answer. Caution, hitting too fast will cause the airbag to deploy and the engine cut off to disable the vehicle; so theres a happy medium.

I used to keep a Tac-14 next to the transmission hump for crowds. Now I keep a couple IWI Flash Bangs and Pepper Grenades
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Poor decisions get you consequences.
Stay alert, always consider your options, act accordingly.

If you're out and about and things have been getting spicier in your AO, you plan and pack accordingly. It's just that simple.

A FEAR bag is an answer to a question already asked ... and adequately answered with a bigger (maybe not size, but contents) bag.
 
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