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xdman

xdman

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Submitted right around 5-20-19 so it took right at 9 months to get back approval. This is my Surefire Socom300SP Silencer. Yes Silencer, Silencer is what is on the paperwork. Silencer is what is on the form 1’s when you file them. Anyway this is my newest suppressor. Anyone else collect these things
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Congrats that's a good looking can!

I'm still waiting for approval on my 762 Rugged Razor I bought back in December. This is my first silencer having only been in a free state for 6 months now. I do plan on getting a .22 silencer in the near future also any suggestions?
 
10mmLife said:
Congrats that's a good looking can!

I'm still waiting for approval on my 762 Rugged Razor I bought back in December. This is my first silencer having only been in a free state for 6 months now. I do plan on getting a .22 silencer in the near future also any suggestions?
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Hey I will have a video / article on building one and getting approval in 30 days. And if you don’t want to build man there are so many great cans out there. Would look for sales right when you are ready.
 
xdman said:
Hey I will have a video / article on building one and getting approval in 30 days. And if you don’t want to build man there are so many great cans out there. Would look for sales right when you are ready.
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Building does sounds like a great idea!

I'll be looking forward to your video / article.
 
No need to do it on the DL, its a thing. Register for an account with the ATF, order a kit then fill out the online form. Right at 30 days you get an email with your approval. Once you fill out your first efile then rest only take a couple minutes to fill out. Since they have most of your info. I am up to a couple SBR’s and just submitted for my first suppressor last week.
 
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Jaycen said:
If you're going to delete my replies, then do us both a favor and delete the one you just quoted.

The last thing I want is for some state-worshipper to use my responses to churn out his own propaganda.

I'm trying hard to patiently wait for account removal, which I hope will strip all my posts, but selective deletions are some chicken ****, right there.
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You mentioned things that are illegal and violate the tos even joking about skirting laws is a no go. we are all adults and anyone that mentions skirting the law no matter how much you dislike them will get that post deleted. if you can not handle that responsibility and respect the other users in the group, please let us know.

And you are right I just reread your other post and that will be deleted as well.
 
Wanting to get a suppressor for my 300BO pistol used for home defense. It'll be my first, so I'm still researching how to go about it and going back and forth on advantage of either individual or setting up a trust. I appreciate this thread and others that have contributed, which has helped me get a better understanding of suppressors/silencers. I came across this article which I also found helpful. Thanks and keep this information coming. :)

www.nrafamily.org

NRA Family | 4 Things to Know About Buying Your First Suppressor

Reduced recoil and report, here you come!
www.nrafamily.org www.nrafamily.org
 
BET7 said:
Wanting to get a suppressor for my 300BO pistol used for home defense. It'll be my first, so I'm still researching how to go about it and going back and forth on advantage of either individual or setting up a trust. I appreciate this thread and others that have contributed, which has helped me get a better understanding of suppressors/silencers. I came across this article which I also found helpful. Thanks and keep this information coming. :)

www.nrafamily.org

NRA Family | 4 Things to Know About Buying Your First Suppressor

Reduced recoil and report, here you come!
www.nrafamily.org www.nrafamily.org
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I always do individual, My wife would never carry or use any of them on her own Outside the house. I don’t feel the need to complicate the paperwork or the xtra work of finger prints, photos, responsible persons sheets For each person.
 
xdman said:
I always do individual, My wife would never carry or use any of them on her own Outside the house. I don’t feel the need to complicate the paperwork or the xtra work of finger prints, photos, responsible persons sheets For each person.
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Yeah, I’m kind of leaning towards individual as well. Then I run into someone that recommends trust, so I go back & forth. They both have their advantages I suppose, but I think I’ll get the ball rolling with an individual, as I’m not getting any younger. Thanks for your input, I‘m very interested in the subject.
 
BET7 said:
Yeah, I’m kind of leaning towards individual as well. Then I run into someone that recommends trust, so I go back & forth. They both have their advantages I suppose, but I think I’ll get the ball rolling with an individual, as I’m not getting any younger. Thanks for your input, I‘m very interested in the subject.
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Passing NFA Items Down To Your Heirs Without A Trust
Passing NFA Items Down To Your Heirs Without A Trust
From the desk of eSilencers CEO, John Rich
You have finally decided to take the plunge into the NFA World, and your going to start buying Suppressors, SBR’s, etc. But one looming decision that you have to make is how are you going to file. With a Gun Trust, or as an Individual? But then you do research and realize that Gun Trust can be expensive, and the wait times seem to take longer for the ATF to approve your NFA items than by filing as an individual. Sometimes as much as 1-2 extra months. However, with that said, there are advantages to having a Gun Trust compared to an Individual. For one, you can add Co-trustees to your Trust which can possess your NFA Items without you being present. And you can have beneficiaries on your Trust which means when you die, the beneficiaries will easily take possession of your NFA items. So, a NFA Trust is a good way to go. Note: See our YouTube video “Individual vs. Trust”.
Even with the cons of using a Trust, many fear that if they do not go with a Trust, that when they die, their NFA items will not pass down to their heirs. And once you file as an Individual, it will cost you another $200 per NFA item to transfer it to a Trust down the road. So, you want to get it right the first time.
So, with that said, what really happens to your NFA items when you die if they were filed as an Individual? There are so many misconceptions out there that say that the government will take control of your NFA items. However, the purpose of this article is to debunk these misconceptions. Considering that even though you filed as an Individual, and not as a Trust, you will still be able to pass these NFA items down to your heirs. Below is what to do.
What do I need to do if my NFA items are listed in my name only(Individual), and not on a Trust?
  1. You first want to include in your Will that all your NFA items will pass down to your stated heirs. This is where having a lawyer draft a Will comes into place. You need a Will anyways, so speak with your Attorney about including your NFA items in your Will.
  2. You will then need to speak with a reputable Class 3 Dealer(we can help you) who is knowledgeable in paperwork. Once you die, the NFA items will need to be transferred to the heirs of the Will. They will need to complete a Form 5 tax free application for each NFA item, and submit them to the ATF for approval. The Form 5 application is a tax free transfer. So, there will be no need to pay the $200 tax stamp for each NFA item again.
  3. You will need to have all your NFA items secured in a safe location with the address associated with the Form 4’s. They will need to be secured safely until the Form 5 paperwork is approved.
Once the Form 5 applications are approved, the heirs will be able to legally take possession.

General Info:
-Form 5 application is the tax free form that will transfer the NFA items over to the heirs in the Will.
-Form 5 approval turnaround times are approximately 30 days. Could vary though.
-The heirs in your Will are the ones that will be eligible to apply for the Form 5’s.

Summary: Even though your NFA items will transfer down to your family on a Form 5(tax free) application, we still recommend a Gun Trust. Having a Gun Trust will simplify the transfer process upon your death. It’s pretty straight forward with a Trust. Whoever is listed as the beneficiaries/Co-trustees, will be the ones who take sole possession of the NFA items without the need to go through the Will. However, even with having your NFA items in a Trust, your heirs(beneficiaries) will still have to submit the Form 5 tax free application.
 
xdman said:
Passing NFA Items Down To Your Heirs Without A Trust
Passing NFA Items Down To Your Heirs Without A Trust
From the desk of eSilencers CEO, John Rich
You have finally decided to take the plunge into the NFA World, and your going to start buying Suppressors, SBR’s, etc. But one looming decision that you have to make is how are you going to file. With a Gun Trust, or as an Individual? But then you do research and realize that Gun Trust can be expensive, and the wait times seem to take longer for the ATF to approve your NFA items than by filing as an individual. Sometimes as much as 1-2 extra months. However, with that said, there are advantages to having a Gun Trust compared to an Individual. For one, you can add Co-trustees to your Trust which can possess your NFA Items without you being present. And you can have beneficiaries on your Trust which means when you die, the beneficiaries will easily take possession of your NFA items. So, a NFA Trust is a good way to go. Note: See our YouTube video “Individual vs. Trust”.
Even with the cons of using a Trust, many fear that if they do not go with a Trust, that when they die, their NFA items will not pass down to their heirs. And once you file as an Individual, it will cost you another $200 per NFA item to transfer it to a Trust down the road. So, you want to get it right the first time.
So, with that said, what really happens to your NFA items when you die if they were filed as an Individual? There are so many misconceptions out there that say that the government will take control of your NFA items. However, the purpose of this article is to debunk these misconceptions. Considering that even though you filed as an Individual, and not as a Trust, you will still be able to pass these NFA items down to your heirs. Below is what to do.
What do I need to do if my NFA items are listed in my name only(Individual), and not on a Trust?
  1. You first want to include in your Will that all your NFA items will pass down to your stated heirs. This is where having a lawyer draft a Will comes into place. You need a Will anyways, so speak with your Attorney about including your NFA items in your Will.
  2. You will then need to speak with a reputable Class 3 Dealer(we can help you) who is knowledgeable in paperwork. Once you die, the NFA items will need to be transferred to the heirs of the Will. They will need to complete a Form 5 tax free application for each NFA item, and submit them to the ATF for approval. The Form 5 application is a tax free transfer. So, there will be no need to pay the $200 tax stamp for each NFA item again.
  3. You will need to have all your NFA items secured in a safe location with the address associated with the Form 4’s. They will need to be secured safely until the Form 5 paperwork is approved.
Once the Form 5 applications are approved, the heirs will be able to legally take possession.

General Info:
-Form 5 application is the tax free form that will transfer the NFA items over to the heirs in the Will.
-Form 5 approval turnaround times are approximately 30 days. Could vary though.
-The heirs in your Will are the ones that will be eligible to apply for the Form 5’s.

Summary: Even though your NFA items will transfer down to your family on a Form 5(tax free) application, we still recommend a Gun Trust. Having a Gun Trust will simplify the transfer process upon your death. It’s pretty straight forward with a Trust. Whoever is listed as the beneficiaries/Co-trustees, will be the ones who take sole possession of the NFA items without the need to go through the Will. However, even with having your NFA items in a Trust, your heirs(beneficiaries) will still have to submit the Form 5 tax free application.
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Outstanding xdman, thanks. At this point in my life, I really don't have anyone to share nor pass down to, any NFA items. I didn't really know what trust vs individual provided. I thought that perhaps trusts made the process of getting additional suppressors down the line easier to get i.e less wait time, no tax (or reduced) fee, no additional photo/fingerprints, etc. Sounds like in my case, individual is the way to go, and as you provided, can still be passed down with a will if that need ever arises. Thanks again, it's made my decision, and easy one. Now to get off my keister and get the ball rolling. ;)
 
BET7 said:
Outstanding xdman, thanks. At this point in my life, I really don't have anyone to share nor pass down to, any NFA items. I didn't really know what trust vs individual provided. I thought that perhaps trusts made the process of getting additional suppressors down the line easier to get i.e less wait time, no tax (or reduced) fee, no additional photo/fingerprints, etc. Sounds like in my case, individual is the way to go, and as you provided, can still be passed down with a will if that need ever arises. Thanks again, it's made my decision, and easy one. Now to get off my keister and get the ball rolling. ;)
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Hi brother . I bet you didn't know I existed . :LOL:
 
papa said:
Hi brother . I bet you didn't know I existed . :LOL:
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No I didn't :ROFLMAO:. I'll let all my lenders know, I'm sure they'll be glad to know there's someone out there to repay all my debts when I leave. :sneaky: papa can you hear me now! :eek::oops:
 
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