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AR15 Recoil Reduction

Bullseye1776

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OK AR noob here, so please be gentle :) Picked up a basic Ruger AR556MPR as my first AR. I enjoy the rifle and its been reliable and accurate through 400+/- rounds so far. My biggest issue is that the recoil gets to me after a few magazines. I enjoy tinkering with my firearms and since this was an inexpensive rifle I figured it was a perfect platform to start learning with.

After some web-foo, I figure a new muzzle break like the Fortis RED 556 AR 15 would be easy enough for a beginner to add. I then started looking at buffer weights and springs to help with recoil. Heres where I started getting confused; theres a huge variety of options and price ranges out there but I don't know what to look for. Are all buffers the same size and are they interchangeable? How do I know what will fit in my particular rifle and how much will the different option decrease felt recoil? what about adjustable gas systems?

Just looking for some advice to get me pointed in the right direction :)
 
My biggest suggestion is looking for a better more padded buttstock. adding a heavier buffer will add a bit of recoil. Muzzle brakes will reduce muzzle climb a little bit, some are better than others. with that said i don't like muzzle brakes, the noisy suckers. adjustable gas systems is not something for a neophyte to install. What buttstock do you have on it, frankly i have never had any AR15 buck hard enough to hurt.
 
I'm wracking my mind about how to write this and sound like a smart adz.

What recoil? My ARs are the lightest recoiling rifles that I have ever fired, less the 22lr guns that I have.

I've not found a pad or recoil device the actually softened the impact. Unless you get a shock absorbing system to mount somehow, I think you're hoping for what ain't out there.

Good luck in your search amigo!
 
Belt Fed said:
Smart Adz 😁
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When I was learning I tried different spring strengths, but that just messed things up so I settled in a standard weight CS (chrome-silicone) recoil spring with a Spikes T3 buffer on 5.56, and a T4 buffer (same standed weight spring) on .308/6.6CM AR-10 types, bothe DI systems.

I do the same on adjustable gas gubns but also adjust the gas setting for 100% reliability/function.
 
If you're using 5.56 ammo then change to 223rem. Try that 1st before changing parts. Different ammo willing make a difference in how the reliable it will cycle. Adjustable gas block will get you a finer tune per ammo used and if truly wanting to get a lesser felt on recoil it will cost money! In 1 5.56 i have a 2oz buffer, titanium bcg and an adjustable gas block. Those 3 parts when i bought them years ago on sale totaled $700, but the results were what I wanted. Cyclic rates will be reduced also which wasn't a concern.
 
Talyn said:
When I was learning I tried different spring strengths, but that just messed things up so I settled in a standard weight CS (chrome-silicone) recoil spring with a Spikes T3 buffer on 5.56, and a T4 buffer (same standed weight spring) on .308/6.6CM AR-10 types, bothe DI systems.

I do the same on adjustable gas gubns but also adjust the gas setting for 100% reliability/function.
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TEXASforLIFE said:
If you're using 5.56 ammo then change to 223rem. Try that 1st before changing parts. Different ammo willing make a difference in how the reliable it will cycle. Adjustable gas block will get you a finer tune per ammo used and if truly wanting to get a lesser felt on recoil it will cost money! In 1 5.56 i have a 2oz buffer, titanium bcg and an adjustable gas block. Those 3 parts when i bought them years ago on sale totaled $700, but the results were what I wanted. Cyclic rates will be reduced also which wasn't a concern.
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Look at you two gettin all technical and stuff, But....

To ameliorate the kinetic recoil impulse of an AR-15, you must attenuate the gas dynamics, increase reciprocating mass, or redirect propellant gases.
 
Bullseye1776 said:
OK AR noob here, so please be gentle :) Picked up a basic Ruger AR556MPR as my first AR. I enjoy the rifle and its been reliable and accurate through 400+/- rounds so far. My biggest issue is that the recoil gets to me after a few magazines. I enjoy tinkering with my firearms and since this was an inexpensive rifle I figured it was a perfect platform to start learning with.

After some web-foo, I figure a new muzzle break like the Fortis RED 556 AR 15 would be easy enough for a beginner to add. I then started looking at buffer weights and springs to help with recoil. Heres where I started getting confused; theres a huge variety of options and price ranges out there but I don't know what to look for. Are all buffers the same size and are they interchangeable? How do I know what will fit in my particular rifle and how much will the different option decrease felt recoil? what about adjustable gas systems?

Just looking for some advice to get me pointed in the right direction :)
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Proper hold - shouldering of the weapon will mitigate.
A muzzle brake is going to make it LOUD. Especially indoor. Fellow shooters will hate you. Blast goes right to them.
If recoil is still an issue for you, work on putting or getting a small pad, but just to give you a little ribbing, women in the armed forces dont complain😉🙂
 
Ok a little humor below

But seriously, what I would suggest is a padded butt stick. And maybe a muzzle break. And that is it.

The problem with changjng our buffers, different weight buffwr aorjngs and adding all the BS aftermarket parts is it doesn’t help with the 223 like it would with say a 300 Win Mag. And it will (YES IT WILL) cause reliability issues and increase wear.

You can do whatever hih want but I have about 40 years experience from Air Force Combat Arms Training and Maintenance, Fed LE Trainjng Centwr Lead Insteuctor, Indjana LE Academy Instructor and armorer as well as dealing with folks slapping on aftermarket parts to their AR’s at a large 3 range gun store with that does about 10 million in sales a year.

But somewhere someone will say their one gun didn’t give them problems and I am wrong.

Good luck
 

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Bullseye1776 said:
OK AR noob here, so please be gentle :) Picked up a basic Ruger AR556MPR as my first AR. I enjoy the rifle and its been reliable and accurate through 400+/- rounds so far. My biggest issue is that the recoil gets to me after a few magazines. I enjoy tinkering with my firearms and since this was an inexpensive rifle I figured it was a perfect platform to start learning with.

After some web-foo, I figure a new muzzle break like the Fortis RED 556 AR 15 would be easy enough for a beginner to add. I then started looking at buffer weights and springs to help with recoil. Heres where I started getting confused; theres a huge variety of options and price ranges out there but I don't know what to look for. Are all buffers the same size and are they interchangeable? How do I know what will fit in my particular rifle and how much will the different option decrease felt recoil? what about adjustable gas systems?

Just looking for some advice to get me pointed in the right direction :)
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@Bullseye1776 welcome to the forum. Nice selection on your first AR, which won’t be your last (try as you may, you’ll always cave to “this is the last one.”). AR’s are already pretty light in the recoil department. But they are definitely loud. It may be in your head (not joking) that something so loud must kick like a mule.
So before you go tinkering with your rifle chasing recoil reduction, which may not have the result you’re looking for, shoot it until you get fatigued then put it away for the day. Then go back another day trying to get one more magazine in.
Those are just my 2 cents.
PS- muzzle brakes are LOUD!! Consider a linear compensator, if anything.
 
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