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Buying a new car/truck?

OldGrunt said:
My wife and I purchased a 2025 Mazda CX-70 a few months ago. We love it. It has a very peppy 3.3 Turbo In-Line Six, and all-wheel drive. The handling of it reminds me of a sports car, not an SUV. Both the wife and I have had Mazda's in the past, so we know they last. As far as trucks go, I am probably on my last truck. I'm 60 years old and my truck is a 2020 Ram 2500 4x4 with the Cummins diesel. I've done a few mods to it, but the best and most important one was the emissions delete. I live in BY GOD TEXAS, so I don't have any fear of silly emissions laws. The emissions delete will likely allow me to keep this truck as my last one, since it should now run well past the time and age when I will still need a truck like that. But this all works for me, I'm sure it would not work out well for others.
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The problem will be when you try to trade it in. Most dealers won't touch it if the emissions have been messed with.
 
1st time I ever heard of def I laughed my backside off. It made no sense in the term. I don't like diesels sam I am! Not counting tractors and class 2 and up trucks. Per gallon mile they cost more. The small turbo diesels MAY be more economical as iknow a few that have them and like them. Go gas and ve saved! If I find all necessary parts I'm buying the 6.6 gas from Chevy and TT it for my next dually. All of this diesel p/u crap since the 80's has made farm/offload fuel horrendous on price. Makes farming cost ridiculous
 
I don't recommend anyone buying a vehicle made after 2015 or so, the newer the truck the more problems you will have.

I just finished reinvesting in both of my trucks installing new OEM or better suspension parts plus some upgrades, it was tens of thousands less than buying a newer vehicle and knowing these two trucks as well as I do gives me comfort. I have been driving the 2002 4WD V8 Tundra since 2003, and I've been driving the 2007 2WD 5.7L Tundra since 2017.
 
Winchester67 said:
Biden's gas mileage requirements took a lot of capable V6 sedans off the market. My wife had a Prius when I met her, and it was a great car but the big battery has an "end date" and when we hit it a replacement battery was $4000 plus. I am retired, so gas mileage is not really a concern because I have always been willing to pay to play so to speak. And I don't have a 40 mile daily commute or anything. So I am thinking while Mr. T is in office perhaps it is time for me to buy what may well be my last car/truck with 60 years old in the rear view mirror. A Ford Heavy Duty four wheel drive is still available with an old fashioned regular V8. A Heavy Duty Truck driven like a car will easily last 20 years. So would a regular F150 I suppose for that matter. Would the Heavy Duty be worth the extra coin? My heirs would think so I suspect, when they inherit a V8 truck with all the right options with low miles the likes of which have not been available for years by then. I also suspect by the time a Ford Truck treated like a car wears out, if not before, I will probably want something smaller. I will retain the Cobra until I can no longer drive a stick shift, aka the day I die. So "fun" is a factor but not the factor.

Sedans? V8's seem to be gone, V6's on the way out. A six would be the minimum. If a red-faced straining turbo motor is called for, well, I don't have to worry about buying before Mr. T is out of office anyway. A Honda Ridgeline is a crappy truck if you honestly need a truck, but I like them as a car and frankly my hard work truck days are over. But they ride nice for a truck, are reasonably quiet and I can still haul stuff as needed. Perhaps the SUV version it sprang from, the Passport. The Mazda inline six perked up my ears, even though it has a turbo. I love an inline six. The old Ford seven main bearing six was a real workhorse. BMW's and Mercs have really gone downhill in terms of long term quality. Not like the old days at all. They are great cars for the first owner by design. But as the miles roll on, I am not going to accept those repair bills.

Sound off-what do you think a fella looking for a long term V6 or V8 should get?
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Well I am a Mopar fan with some love for the old Intertrashal. My old Dodge job rated pickup 6 cylinder that I did a valve job along with a overbore plus making combustion chamber a little smaller to up compression then redoing exhaust system made me a low cost back country taxi with a 25 gallon gas tank took me where I needed to go. My Intertrashal 4 wheel drive and a 32 gallon gas tank (12 and twenty) was also great but you can't afford them now because there a classic.
 
Winchester67 said:
Biden's gas mileage requirements took a lot of capable V6 sedans off the market. My wife had a Prius when I met her, and it was a great car but the big battery has an "end date" and when we hit it a replacement battery was $4000 plus. I am retired, so gas mileage is not really a concern because I have always been willing to pay to play so to speak. And I don't have a 40 mile daily commute or anything. So I am thinking while Mr. T is in office perhaps it is time for me to buy what may well be my last car/truck with 60 years old in the rear view mirror. A Ford Heavy Duty four wheel drive is still available with an old fashioned regular V8. A Heavy Duty Truck driven like a car will easily last 20 years. So would a regular F150 I suppose for that matter. Would the Heavy Duty be worth the extra coin? My heirs would think so I suspect, when they inherit a V8 truck with all the right options with low miles the likes of which have not been available for years by then. I also suspect by the time a Ford Truck treated like a car wears out, if not before, I will probably want something smaller. I will retain the Cobra until I can no longer drive a stick shift, aka the day I die. So "fun" is a factor but not the factor.

Sedans? V8's seem to be gone, V6's on the way out. A six would be the minimum. If a red-faced straining turbo motor is called for, well, I don't have to worry about buying before Mr. T is out of office anyway. A Honda Ridgeline is a crappy truck if you honestly need a truck, but I like them as a car and frankly my hard work truck days are over. But they ride nice for a truck, are reasonably quiet and I can still haul stuff as needed. Perhaps the SUV version it sprang from, the Passport. The Mazda inline six perked up my ears, even though it has a turbo. I love an inline six. The old Ford seven main bearing six was a real workhorse. BMW's and Mercs have really gone downhill in terms of long term quality. Not like the old days at all. They are great cars for the first owner by design. But as the miles roll on, I am not going to accept those repair bills.

Sound off-what do you think a fella looking for a long term V6 or V8 should get?
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I had a fully loaded Ford Sport Trac. It was perfect because if I needed something to haul a new washer, it was big enough. But I never got roped into helping people move because it isn't big enough to haul much. If I ever had to haul something bigger, I'd rent a trailer for a day. It had plenty of power and was downright comfortable.

All of that being said, if I was in the market, I'd look for something similar to that Sport Trac. I regret the day I traded mine in.
 
I admit I lean towards used. My wife is a buy new, maintain it and in ten or so years when it is time for a new one, give the old car to someone in her family and buy another new. So I suspect I will end up with new because I pick my battles and if she wants to win that one it is not really too big a loss for me. My 2013 Honda Civic Si only has a shade over 100,000 on the clock, and I love the six speed manual transmission, limited slip diff and 2.4 liter 201 non-turbo horsepower engine. The 2.4 makes enough low end torque you don't have to rev the heck out of it, but above 4000 rpm the VTEC makes it act like a whole different motor.

I was mostly thinking if I am going to get a non-turbo, "simple" V6 or V8 I may have to act before Mr T leaves office. The 5.0 Coyote is calling me....
 
So playing with the build and price features since I can't sleep. Toyota is out. Already dropped the V6 apparently. Boo Hiss! Ford with a Super Crew Cab (very car like) and a short bed with a 5.0 V8 engine is $57,000 with the exact model on my local dealers lot. Honda Passport with a V6 and all wheel drive is $46,000. Ouch. Ten grand makes it hard to justify for two cylinders. Plus my wife does not particularly like trucks, but admits it would be nice during deer season. (Yes, she hunts. She is a keeper) Mazda has an inline 6, my favorite 6 configuration, but also the complexity of a turbo. Pass.

My instincts say Ford Coyote, but I think the Honda Passport/Pilot would get the nod due to being ten grand cheaper before I even start dealing. Anyone out there have the Honda V6? It has been around forever, but I think they recently went to DOHC instead of a single. Still, that is all old, proven technology. Another twist. Ford dealer in nearby Sedalia has a couple of 66 Mustangs in his showroom. He needs a Cobra, obviously. What about trading the Cobra for a new Coyote 4X4 truck? We would both make out on that deal. And it means I could get an MGB or a TR 6 for a fun convertible which are WAY cheaper than the Cobra and would fit in my John Deere Room so everything would be garaged. It pains me to have my 2013 Honda outside, and modern water based paint simply does not hold up like the olden days. The Honda is tip top mechanically, but looking a bit shabby outside. My wife's car, of course, has to be garaged. Good problem to have I suppose....
 
We have had Dodge Caliber for 15yrs nothing special but. Fits our needs. Great gas mileage,23 to 25 in town and 32 to 36 on trips. I had enough enough fast cars so will run this one awhile longer as it only has 78 thousand miles on it.
 
NMEDGE said:
Just go purchase a new Buick! Life would be better in a Chinese made BUICK! Trust me, I sold cars for 20 years, would I lie to you.
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Still dealing with my wife's Enclave.... so yeah... buy a buick
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Car and Driver magazine article 2016: long term test of a Porsche Cayman S. After 40,000 miles, performing routine scheduled maintenance cost $3094. For comparison, the highest performing American Car, practically a race car nowadays, the mighty Corvette in scheduled maintenance over 40,000 miles? A whopping $661. I love German engineering, but choke on the maintenance bills!
 
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