Carry vs No Guns sign.
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Annihilator
Emissary
Go lock up gun in car, it’s a businesses right to not allow weapons in there stores as it’s my right to carry a weapon according to the law.
HansGruber
Ronin
This, or--preferably--go someplace else that allows me to carry on premises.
SubChaser
Operator
It's a bit different here in Ohio.
HayesGreener
Ronin
It depends on the state you are in and your state statutes. In Florida for example, a "no Firearms" sign has no force of law and you can ignore it. If they know you have it they can ask you to leave and you have to go or you are trespassing. (there are 15 places where you cannot carry a gun by law but that's another subject FS 790.06 (12)a.). In Texas on the other hand, if the sign is worded as prescribed by law, if you enter with a gun you are in violation of the law. Having a lock box or locking console, or better yet a console vault, is the only option if you have to leave it in the truck. Know the laws where you are.
HansGruber
Ronin
True; in MN, I can carry past a "No guns" sign with no repercussions, save that I must (immediately!) leave should I be asked to.
However, I also believe that respecting rights is a two-way street; that is, if I want my rights respected, I must respect others as well...and that means not blatantly disregarding their right to ban guns on their premises.
Is it just a generic sign, or a sign that meets the state requirement?
If it's just a sign, I legally can and do ignore it.
If it's a legally posted sign, I go somewhere else if I can, or lock my gun in the car.
Frank 2041
Operator
It's mostly just Govt bldgs here in Ohio. And you usually know ahead of time, so just leave the EDC at home.
There was a shooting last week at a Kroger store in our area. I don’t believe Kroger bans guns, but I think if a business prohibits carrying, then that business assumes the responsibility to protect you. If you get shot shopping there, then they should be held responsible for making you whole.
Annihilator
Emissary
My local Walmart here in Ohio doesn't allow open carry even though its legal in Ohio, but I have not seen any requirements for CCW, and they allow that, just depends I guess where your at.
Frank 2041
Operator
I agree... But they will say nobody forced you to disarm, and enter their bldg.
C. Sumpin
Custom
Well now............hmmmm.........pubic forum..............Oh, typo there, sorry.........
Sure not going to publicly commit on this one..............BUT....................
I'm not so certain who/what business can deny/cancel/usurp one's Constitutional right to pack.
If many or most businesses/places posted signs then...................
The smear can hit the fan anywhere anytime and we know that.
The question to myself (or yourself) then is; do I want to risk being defenseless and perhaps lose my life to obey a
(questionable) sign that another person disobeyed to commit mayhem?? Am I willing to be that person (victim) because Murphys law hit on the occasion that I obeyed a sign and was unarmed, even to assist an innocent person or LE??
Now I'm going to contemplate this real hard, from all angles and come to a conclusion...................
Sure not going to publicly commit on this one..............BUT....................
I'm not so certain who/what business can deny/cancel/usurp one's Constitutional right to pack.
If many or most businesses/places posted signs then...................
The smear can hit the fan anywhere anytime and we know that.
The question to myself (or yourself) then is; do I want to risk being defenseless and perhaps lose my life to obey a
(questionable) sign that another person disobeyed to commit mayhem?? Am I willing to be that person (victim) because Murphys law hit on the occasion that I obeyed a sign and was unarmed, even to assist an innocent person or LE??
Now I'm going to contemplate this real hard, from all angles and come to a conclusion...................
Frank 2041
Operator
Thats alot to contemplate.. Or you can just vote with your $$. And go shop at a store that supports our 2A Rights.
HayesGreener
Ronin
Locally an upscale chain restaurant here in the Gunshine State had a no guns sign on their door. Even though we could legally ignore the sign, it was pointed out to them how the sign might be hurting their business, given local values and attitudes. Shortly thereafter we noticed the sign was scraped off the door.
HansGruber
Ronin
This is quite simple:
Do you have the right to post a political sign in the window of a business that does not want it? Or hold a religious service there against the business owner’s wishes?
It’s absolutely no different than carrying a gun past a sign (legally compliant or no) saying the business does not want you to. If you don’t like it, don’t shop there. Why you’d want to give money to a business that doesn’t support your 2A rights is a question you should be asking yourself first and foremost.
It doesn’t matter “what may go down”; that’s immaterial. If that worries you, go elsewhere; dot, period, end of story.
Keystone19250
SAINT
Where I get my haircut (JCPenny salon) they are part of a mall, the mall has a sign posted No Guns allowed on mall entrance doors JCPenny does not so I enter through a JCP door which is right next to the salon Gun on hip concealed, I know Maria knows I carry and has no issue with it. After my haircut I leave.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
I go elsewhere or go home and shop online.
This with an understanding you are talking about a retail store, not a prohibited by law in my state Post Office, School, Govt building … etc
Why support that business.
