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Dire situation in Virginia

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Elections are over and Progressives now hold both houses in the Virginia General Assembly along with a new Progressive governor.
Warnings about the importance of voting were not heeded by too many gun owners and now the fight to protect our Second Amendment rights begins in earnest. But make no mistake, we are in for a rough ride. Looking at the bills anti-rights lawmakers introduced (and the governor vetoed) over the last two years, here’s what we are likely to see passed and signed into law:

Severe restrictions/elimination of reciprocity with other states for concealed carry

Prohibition on carry of many semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns on public roads, parks or any other place open to the public

Prohibition on new “assault firearms” or magazines holding more than 10 rounds
made on or after July 1, 2026; no one under 21 may possess an “assault firearm”

Five-day waiting period when purchasing a firearm or renting a firearm

Permit required to purchase a firearm

Concealed carry prohibited on premises of restaurant that serves alcoholic beverages

NRA and USCCA instructor’s courses will no longer be valid training to get a CHP

Firearm training required every five years to purchase a firearm

Fingerprinting required for getting a CHP

Repeal of exception for non-CHP holders to be able to store their handgun in a
secured compartment or container while in a motor vehicle

All homemade firearms must be serialized, and gun kits must be serialized and sold
through a gun dealer

5% tax on firearms and ammunition to fund “Gun Violence Intervention and
Prevention Grant Program”

Prohibition of home-based gun dealers from operating within 1.5 miles of any
elementary or middle school, which will wipe out almost all home-based FFLs

No semi-automatic firearms with any modification that “increases the rate of fire”

Firearms prohibited in hospitals and emergency care facilities

Firearms prohibited at universities and colleges inside of buildings

No one under 21-years-old can purchase an “assault firearm”

A person convicted of battery in a “dating relationship” loses the right to possess a
firearm for 3 years

A person convicted of a misdemeanor “hate crime” (whatever that is) cannot possess a firearm

A second offense of misdemeanor drunk driving prohibits a person from possessing a handgun for 5 years

A conviction of simple assault, assault and battery, or stalking prohibits a person from possessing a firearm for 5 years

Extends the prohibition on carry outside of a polling place from 40 to 150 feet

Firearms in a home with a minor or prohibited person must be unloaded and locked in a container, if not carried on the person

$500 and towing for a visible handgun stored in an unattended vehicle
 
ex13F said:
I can't imagine living in one of the states that restrict freedom. I don't travel to/through those states and have begun not buying items from them as to not aid their economies. Nothing against those of you who do live there. In all honesty, you have my sympathy and I wish you the best. Move if you can.
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When I lived in MN they had (likely worse now) "permit to purchase" even when you went thru the whole CCW process.

@belladonna can likely inform us about the current firearms laws in the PRMN.
 
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Talyn said:
When I lived in MN they had (likely worse now) "permit to purchase" even when you went thru the whole CCW process.

@belladonna can likely inform us about the current firearms laws in the PRMN.
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I had to get a permit to purchase in order to purchase a gun in 2015. Basically a background check and a form signed by the chief of police in my town, renewable annually. Got my CCW in 2023, takes the place of the permit to purchase, renewable every five years. And they run a background check every time you fill out the forms at the FFL to purchase a firearm..
 
GPS said:
Permit to purchase by far is the most unconstitutional attack on second amendment rights. The whole point is to not get government permission as a free person and citizen of The United States of America.
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@GPS whenever i speak with “non-gun” people about this subject i suggest to them that maybe we should apply the same or similar laws/restrictions/permits to those who want to vote. They go quiet.
 
NMEDGE said:
Old saying goes, you wanted it now you got it, live with it. It's easy to take away rights but hard as hell to get them back.
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Yep. Hard to fathom how just a few counties in Northern Virginia (ie, DC) can literally control and dictate the future of the state.

And those folks are so disconnected from the rest of the State they might as well be on the dark side of the moon.

The larger problem with Virginia (unlike other States or Commonwealths) is that the Virginia Grand Old Party is very old and VERY AKIN to Yale's Skull and Bones. They didn’t bother to get out to shake hands and kiss babies.

Republicans are the party of old white men, and we’re under assault.
 
Recusant said:
Elections are over and Progressives now hold both houses in the Virginia General Assembly along with a new Progressive governor.
Warnings about the importance of voting were not heeded by too many gun owners and now the fight to protect our Second Amendment rights begins in earnest. But make no mistake, we are in for a rough ride. Looking at the bills anti-rights lawmakers introduced (and the governor vetoed) over the last two years, here’s what we are likely to see passed and signed into law:

Severe restrictions/elimination of reciprocity with other states for concealed carry

Prohibition on carry of many semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns on public roads, parks or any other place open to the public

Prohibition on new “assault firearms” or magazines holding more than 10 rounds
made on or after July 1, 2026; no one under 21 may possess an “assault firearm”

Five-day waiting period when purchasing a firearm or renting a firearm

Permit required to purchase a firearm

Concealed carry prohibited on premises of restaurant that serves alcoholic beverages

NRA and USCCA instructor’s courses will no longer be valid training to get a CHP

Firearm training required every five years to purchase a firearm

Fingerprinting required for getting a CHP

Repeal of exception for non-CHP holders to be able to store their handgun in a
secured compartment or container while in a motor vehicle

All homemade firearms must be serialized, and gun kits must be serialized and sold
through a gun dealer

5% tax on firearms and ammunition to fund “Gun Violence Intervention and
Prevention Grant Program”

Prohibition of home-based gun dealers from operating within 1.5 miles of any
elementary or middle school, which will wipe out almost all home-based FFLs

No semi-automatic firearms with any modification that “increases the rate of fire”

Firearms prohibited in hospitals and emergency care facilities

Firearms prohibited at universities and colleges inside of buildings

No one under 21-years-old can purchase an “assault firearm”

A person convicted of battery in a “dating relationship” loses the right to possess a
firearm for 3 years

A person convicted of a misdemeanor “hate crime” (whatever that is) cannot possess a firearm

A second offense of misdemeanor drunk driving prohibits a person from possessing a handgun for 5 years

A conviction of simple assault, assault and battery, or stalking prohibits a person from possessing a firearm for 5 years

Extends the prohibition on carry outside of a polling place from 40 to 150 feet

Firearms in a home with a minor or prohibited person must be unloaded and locked in a container, if not carried on the person

$500 and towing for a visible handgun stored in an unattended vehicle
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Good Lord that is A LOT of restrictions on 2nd Amendment rights.

I feel for the real patriots that live in that state IF they voted against all of this liberal madness. Thankfully I live in the Free State of Florida where we are a solid RED state and have strong conservative leadership.
 
Way too much voter apathy. You fail to vote you have no right to bitch about the results because you are in fact part of the problem. I feel sorry for the decent folks that get hurt by this kind of crap. Look at Ney York and their new Mayor. Largest numbers of Jewish voters in the country and they get a “global jihad” clown for mayor with what a 28% voter turnout? Failing to vote is choosing that you disagree with.
 
Anchorite said:
Yep. Hard to fathom how just a few counties in Northern Virginia (ie, DC) can literally control and dictate the future of the state.

And those folks are so disconnected from the rest of the State they might as well be on the dark side of the moon.

The larger problem with Virginia (unlike other States or Commonwealths) is that the Virginia Grand Old Party is very old and VERY AKIN to Yale's Skull and Bones. They didn’t bother to get out to shake hands and kiss babies.

Republicans are the party of old white men, and we’re under assault.
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All of Virginia is now being “Fairfaxed” is how we see it. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting pretty dim.
Senate Bill 643, which to me is the worst of the bunch, requires a person to have a permit to purchase a firearm (“permit”), which is good for 5 years. To qualify for a permit, the applicant must have had his fingerprints taken and have had firearms training within the last two years. The training must be approved by the Department of Criminal Justice Services and include live fire of at least 10 rounds. Persons under 21-years-old cannot apply for a permit and are thus prohibited from buying firearms. A person renting a gun, persons with dual residency, and out of state residents purchasing long guns must have a permit. In a private sale, the purchaser must have a verified permit. The State Police can charge whatever fee they feel covers their cost in processing the permit application and can take as long as 45 days to issue the permit. Local law enforcement will be notified that you have been issued or denied a permit. This bill adds new misdemeanor prohibitors from getting a permit. The bill also removes the exemption from One Handgun a Month by CHP holders.

As the Virginia Citizens Defense League sees it this bill will get innocent people killed, as it will take at least two months before a person can purchase their first firearm. If they are purchasing that firearm for urgent self-defense, that is simply too long. The price to get a permit, which will likely be in the hundreds of dollars, will be prohibitive for poor people and is the equivalent of a poll tax. And even with all the hoops to get a permit, even citizens with concealed handgun permits will be limited to one handgun a month. Local law-enforcement will be handed a registry of gun owners. And gun rentals at shooting ranges will not be possible for people who have not yet got their permit or are visiting from out of state or from another country.
 
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Anchorite said:
Yep. Hard to fathom how just a few counties in Northern Virginia (ie, DC) can literally control and dictate the future of the state.

And those folks are so disconnected from the rest of the State they might as well be on the dark side of the moon.

The larger problem with Virginia (unlike other States or Commonwealths) is that the Virginia Grand Old Party is very old and VERY AKIN to Yale's Skull and Bones. They didn’t bother to get out to shake hands and kiss babies.

Republicans are the party of old white men, and we’re under assault.
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We have that problem in MN. Once the twin cities votes (and they are bluer than blue, as everyone in the country has seen first hand) it’s basically over for the state. 🤬
 
Thing is the majority of conservative voters did NOT get out and vote. Your failure to vote is a vote for this. No sympathy from me. I get tired of seeing this time and time again. Idiots, and yes I said IDIOTS, only go out and vote in the major elections, but not in the midterms when it counts the most, or refuse to vote because they don't like the candidate. They come up with every worn out excuse as to why they couldn't vote, then complain about how things turned out when their side lost. There is absolutely no excuse. Period. You get what you vote for, and you get what get when you don't go out and vote. And that goes for the ones who refuse to early vote, then on election day cannot make it to vote for whatever reason. Enough is enough. They have nobody to blame but themselves. It sounds like they are closet liberals. Want to blame everyone and everything for their failure other than themselves. I am tired of hearing the whining. If you didn't vote, you brought this on yourself. If you didn't get others out to vote, you brought this on yourself.
 
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