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Dodge pulling the plug on electric Charger g/t

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Shocking news. Like a bolt from the blue almost.
It seems sales weren't as electrifying as expected so they zapped the line. No surge nor spike foreseen in moving Chargers. Scat pack may continue but moves to overpowering ice engines are underway. Perhaps some of the buzz on EVs is attenuating? Ah well those who look for an outlet for their muscle cars will have to strike a deal elsewhere. If one wants those remaining they might have to move like lightning to get the deal while the lots have the capacity.

That was fun to write btw. 😄:ROFLMAO::cool:

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Dodge is pulling the plug on electric Charger Daytona R/T amid lackluster sales

Dodge plans to produce essentially a limited run of its less expensive EV muscle car variant as it prepares to roll out gas-powered versions.
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I'm shocked! Who knew that buying electric cars priced almost twice as much as a car with a combustion engine and almost no place charge it unless you spent a small fortune to rewire your house wouldn't go over with the average American.
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to be fair there is also: 1) the range concern 2) ability to pull a heavy load more than 70 miles til new full charge 3) abysmal service center locations outside of major cities 4) non existant resale value after 4-5 years 5) no real trade in value found from dealers 6) explosive fire hazard and needing 6x water supply to put out lithium fires - 7) NEW - blue haired weirdos now attacking tesla brand 8) major use of poisonous chemicals that often emply slave labor 9) no real recycling available 10) some insurance firms refusing to insure houses that have the EV stored in the garage But hey - those are small unimportant quibbling concerns right? RIGHT?
 
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no replacement for displacement - end the v-6 turbo charger nonsense in full size trucks. bring 'em back ....V-8s.
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I learned a long time ago that there is no substitute for displacement.

Fifty years ago, I fooled around with turbocharging 4-cylinders. I blew two turbos, along with some other hardware.

Big normally aspirated V8s don't blow turbos, I'm hanging on to my V8s, although I just sold my 7.5 liter. At the time, I had the 7.3 L in the truck and a 7.0 L in the Shelby.

Now, counting those two, I only have my five V8s left. They don't work hard to make power, they're durable, and unless there's an affordable V8 available soon, I can't see buying another new car again. If there isn't a gas V8 available when it's time for a new truck (the lift kit on this truck will get old when I do), I'll lower the truck I have.
 
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last2brake said:
I learned a long time ago that there is no substitute for displacement.

Fifty years ago, I fooled around with turbocharging 4-cylinders. I blew two turbos, along with some other hardware.

Big normally aspirated V8s don't blow turbos, I'm hanging on to my V8s, although I just sold my 7.5 liter. At the time, I had the 7.3 L in the truck and a 7.0 L in the Shelby.

Now, counting those two, I only have my five V8s left. They don't work hard to make power, they're durable, and unless there's an affordable V8 available soon, I can't see buying another new car again. If there isn't a gas V8 available when it's time for a new truck (the lift kit on this truck will get old when I do), I'll lower the truck I have.
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i'm looking for a reasonable tt kit for the new 6.6 chevy gas v8. there's a 2k hp version, but don't need that much for a hauler. back in the early 90's i wanted a bb 402 w/454 (makes it a 427 depending on bore) crank then was going to add a tt kit. the lsx blocks looks like siamese bores and don't think that would be good as no water between the bores like their 502 blocks. might just need a bigger radiator w/bigger fans?
 
My thing is cylinder deactivation. I don't care if it's a V or Inline anything. If it has cylinder deactivation, or whatever the manufacturer calls it, I won't touch it as a consumer. I'm just glad I went ahead and did the emissions delete on my current truck. This will be my last pickup truck. I'm just shy of 60, and this truck will get me through until I'm at least 70. Then all I'll care about is when I get my next pudding pop.
 
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i'm looking for a reasonable tt kit for the new 6.6 chevy gas v8. there's a 2k hp version, but don't need that much for a hauler. back in the early 90's i wanted a bb 402 w/454 (makes it a 427 depending on bore) crank then was going to add a tt kit. the lsx blocks looks like siamese bores and don't think that would be good as no water between the bores like their 502 blocks. might just need a bigger radiator w/bigger fans?
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Better off going with a Supercharger.
 
Hi,

I'm really not against the idea of electric cars. They can serve a purpose, especially when the technology is sufficient to fulfill a demand, the manufacturing costs are reasonable, and the enviornmental impact is minimal - beyond the emissions factor. I use a battery powered push mower, leaf blower, edge trimmer, chain saw, cordless drill, etc.

What I don't like are mandates. Let the market decide. When the price, ROI, range, practicality, etc, are in line with what people want and need, EVs just might become popular.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
BassCliff said:
Hi,

I'm really not against the idea of electric cars. They can serve a purpose....
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I can only like your post once..... electric cars are great for certain uses or tools for SOME people, but totally unusable for others. I sorta thought about it briefly for my wife's commute vehicle. We have solar power, and the idea of 'free' fuel is attractive, for example....

But electric cars should be a consumer choice. Not a mandated and gov't-subsidized choice.

I look at Musk's wealth and can't help but realize how much fluff-money is available for individuals being harvested by a few, while Americans are forced to pay for. Against their free choice.

But I'm old enough to remember how bad electric motors were alleged by scientists to be BAD for the 'Ozone Layer', and contributed to 'Global Warming'.

Now scientists have flip-flopped and are telling us that the problem is NOW the $olution for "Climate Change". And the kids are falling for it. Which would be fine if they were the only ones paying for it.

If the dinosaurs had electric cars we'd still have had the Ice Age.

>off soapbox<,,,,,again...
 
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Onewolf426 said:
Better off going with a Supercharger.
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In a truck, I'd want the supercharger for low-rpm torque. Trucks don't need to wait for the revs to climb waiting for the exhaust to build up enough revs to spin the turbo.

I'll admit, the new turbos with modern software and injection technology are almost seamless. But there's alot more parts to do it that are unnecessary to pay for once, let alone to replace later.

Like I said, I blew up my last turbo almost fifty years ago. I haven't had to replace any turbos since then because I don't need them. More displacement is simpler and cheaper, and all the extra tech has more to fail.

Once I heard a car with a custom exhaust that had variable cylinder activation, I almost felt bad for the guy. His engine sounded like he'd blown a head gasket ....

Oh, yeah, sorry. I found my soapbox again
 
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