Does anyone here not celebrate the "Christmas" holiday?
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Annihilator
Hellion
The voice of the heathen attempting to justify itself in the wilderness.
Bugger off.
TurboDog910
Professional
You don’t have to celebrate Christmas on the 25th.
www.biblegateway.com
“One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.”
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Romans 14:5–9 addresses Christian liberty and how believers should treat one another regarding non-essential matters, such as dietary choices and special day observances. [1, 2]
The Passage
The full text of Romans 14:5–9 (ESV), which deals with personal conviction and living unto the Lord, can be read in full in the referenced source documents. [1, 2, 3]
Key Themes & Meaning
We both love Jesus. Having accepted him as our Lord and Savior.
That’s what matters.
Bible Gateway passage: Romans 14:5-9 - New International Version
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains...
“One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.”
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Romans 14:5–9 addresses Christian liberty and how believers should treat one another regarding non-essential matters, such as dietary choices and special day observances. [1, 2]
The Passage
The full text of Romans 14:5–9 (ESV), which deals with personal conviction and living unto the Lord, can be read in full in the referenced source documents. [1, 2, 3]
Key Themes & Meaning
- Freedom of Conscience (v. 5): Believers may hold different convictions on secondary or "gray" areas (such as observing specific holy days or dietary rules), provided each person is genuinely and personally persuaded in their own mind. [1, 2]
- Living for the Lord (v. 6): Whether someone chooses to participate in something or abstain from it, the underlying motive for both must be to honor God and offer thanks to Him. [1, 2]
We both love Jesus. Having accepted him as our Lord and Savior.
That’s what matters.
TurboDog910
Professional
I understand your intent. No hard feelings here.
Model 457
Professional
For intended context and impact, "No hard feelings here." should've been (No hard feelings here.)
TurboDog910
Professional
For intended context and impact, "No hard feelings here." should've been (No hard feelings here.)
The Night Rider
Hellcat
I'm not sure how to answer this question.
I'm a Christian, I know the history of Christmas on Dec 25 and I know it's an offshoot of Saturnalia and all that and I kind of don't care.
My wife and I "Celebrate" on Christmas Eve.
At some point over that week I will watch two versions of A Christmas Carol and I will listen to the RKO theater of the air version. And I'll read the book.
If you actually read the book I can't come up with any other explanation for the end of A Christmas Carol other than Scrooge got Saved.
I mean he has a complete transformation, he turns 180° from his previous lifestyle and the book even says he keeps the spirit of Christmas (which is the spirit of Christ) in his heart all year long.
Scrooge Got Saved
I'm a Christian, I know the history of Christmas on Dec 25 and I know it's an offshoot of Saturnalia and all that and I kind of don't care.
My wife and I "Celebrate" on Christmas Eve.
At some point over that week I will watch two versions of A Christmas Carol and I will listen to the RKO theater of the air version. And I'll read the book.
If you actually read the book I can't come up with any other explanation for the end of A Christmas Carol other than Scrooge got Saved.
I mean he has a complete transformation, he turns 180° from his previous lifestyle and the book even says he keeps the spirit of Christmas (which is the spirit of Christ) in his heart all year long.
Scrooge Got Saved
Christmas was a dark time for me growing up. My mom buried her dad on Christmas Eve, 1969. I was born the following December 16. She never got over his death and would drink and cry every December. My dad was not helpful in consoling her and his drinking was gas on an already smoldering fire. So my childhood memories of my birthdays and Christmas are not happy. That shaped my view on the “Holidays” and still does today.
So yes, we put up a tree, exchange gifts and eat too much. But it is a time i wish was simply put away and not visited.
So yes, we put up a tree, exchange gifts and eat too much. But it is a time i wish was simply put away and not visited.
Old_Me
Emissary
Does anyone here not celebrate the "Christmas" holiday?
the short answer is.......YES
but with a few changes due to our (wife and me) ages
we do not put up a traditional Christmas tree, but rather a "table top", complete with lights.
as for holiday music..??
only IF me or the wife have the radio on, otherwise...no
our 5 adult kids, have thier kids and their grandchildren now, so wife and i go to one of thier houses for the exchange of gifts, or many times, we just hand out "gift cards", and then at a later time, we sit down to a meal.
this is where EVERYONE brings something to the table, either the food for the meal, or many different deserts
there have been times when i was on the road, and got ticked off, i was running late getting home...dang trucking companies back in the day..."kept you away" from home many times and only "promised" they will "try to get you home".......
back then, i soured on Christmas like you would not believe, with 5 littles ones at the house.......
i think its best, for EVERYONE to try thier very best, to hurry up and LIKE the holiday, cuz the way things are going...???
we might be kneeling on a rug, and praying to Kaaba ....very soon..........
bc22wm
Professional
Captain O. Brothre, JMHO you're letting the pressure of the "holydays", commercialization and the "It's not historically accurate" put the zap on your head. Sit back, take a deep breath, YOU DO YOU, enjoy the season, and remember why we are celebrating. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter if we do it in Dec. March or July. If someone wants to make $ on it and someone else wants to spend, well not my (or your) cow, not our cowpie. Life is too short to let crap like this get to you. Besides, we all have more important things to think on.... like what's for supper. 
My one wish to restore some humanity during Christmas is for Mirah Carry’s song and all recordings of it to be lost in a fire!
In all seriousness though I grew up in the Church and skne will want to enlighten me (please don’t I don’t care) while I believe u have become tired of the marketing of Christmas and the fact 90% of people throwing down money for gifts have zero Christian interest.
Our local Christmas parade was a great event 30 skne years ago now it’s basically the classified page from the paper with tree trimmers and wreckers, real estate offices and a politician on a car sporting lights
No 3 wisemen and biblical references like it use to be .
So I just so my family and me these days. If that makes me a Grinch oh well.
In all seriousness though I grew up in the Church and skne will want to enlighten me (please don’t I don’t care) while I believe u have become tired of the marketing of Christmas and the fact 90% of people throwing down money for gifts have zero Christian interest.
Our local Christmas parade was a great event 30 skne years ago now it’s basically the classified page from the paper with tree trimmers and wreckers, real estate offices and a politician on a car sporting lights
No 3 wisemen and biblical references like it use to be .
So I just so my family and me these days. If that makes me a Grinch oh well.
Prior to WW2, the "season" was observed in a far more reverent fashion. after the service members came home, the commercialism expanded at an exponential rate. (We had to get the peacetime economy back on track.) I understand all of this.
After decades of reading/sociological study of how the Catholic faith coopted the Pagan holidays and moving the date of Christ's birth to draw attention away from the heathen celebrations, I grew tired of trying to justify engaging in any celebrations.
While growing up, the three boys in our family had our birthdays on November 25th, November 29th, and December 1st. Thanksgiving, three birthdays, Christmas and New Year's Day made it all a blur.
Everyone is dead but me. No close relations, no special groups, I want Church to focus on the salvation provided by the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. This is far more important than the hideous commercial parade provided by modern society.
It isn't bitterness, just disillusion through the works of commercialism. (I have been trying to deal with this for more than 60 years.)
I'll be 72 years old next month and find myself becoming more and more disappointed each and every year. No anger, just a numb contempt for our commercialistic society.
Rant off.
After decades of reading/sociological study of how the Catholic faith coopted the Pagan holidays and moving the date of Christ's birth to draw attention away from the heathen celebrations, I grew tired of trying to justify engaging in any celebrations.
While growing up, the three boys in our family had our birthdays on November 25th, November 29th, and December 1st. Thanksgiving, three birthdays, Christmas and New Year's Day made it all a blur.
Everyone is dead but me. No close relations, no special groups, I want Church to focus on the salvation provided by the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. This is far more important than the hideous commercial parade provided by modern society.
It isn't bitterness, just disillusion through the works of commercialism. (I have been trying to deal with this for more than 60 years.)
I'll be 72 years old next month and find myself becoming more and more disappointed each and every year. No anger, just a numb contempt for our commercialistic society.
Rant off.
Tremor
Elite
I couldn’t figure out how to delete my first post. I could do without it. I have a large family. I attend the festivities. I don’t practice a religion. I am happy when it is over.
I hate the repetitive Christmas adds and music. I also very much dislike gifts. I give to my favorite charities and the wife shops for kids in the family, that’s fine. But I really hate when people give me a gift. I have made it clear how I feel on the subject with friends and family, but there is always someone that feels the need. Maybe they feel the need to ease their conscience I don’t get it. I quit saying anything because it’s like talking to the wall. Let me take this one step further. I hate Christmas and all the fake stuff that goes with it, but I like getting together with family and I like giving to people in need. The whole season just depresses me.
I hate the repetitive Christmas adds and music. I also very much dislike gifts. I give to my favorite charities and the wife shops for kids in the family, that’s fine. But I really hate when people give me a gift. I have made it clear how I feel on the subject with friends and family, but there is always someone that feels the need. Maybe they feel the need to ease their conscience I don’t get it. I quit saying anything because it’s like talking to the wall. Let me take this one step further. I hate Christmas and all the fake stuff that goes with it, but I like getting together with family and I like giving to people in need. The whole season just depresses me.
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