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I REALLY like the looks of this little guy. A bit on the expensive side, so I figured I'd ask if anyone here owned it and if it's worth the $500 pricetag? Or should I just shut up and appreciate my 10+1 S&W BG2 in 380?
Does anyone here own a Seecamp LWS32?
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I think this is just a case of "It's shiny and pretty and I want it" over actual utility. I mean, it's hard to beat the BG2. I don't even know if 32 is a viable defense round, much less 6+1.
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Guardian is $100 cheaper than the Seecamp. Hmm.
The 380 is a bigger and heavier gun than the .32. When I got my Guardian the Seecamp was a LOT more expensive (and like I said limited on the ammo it’d eat). The .32 in a pocket holster is the gun to have when you can’t have a gun. I sent mine back to NAA and had the custom shop do a gutter snipe tritium, sand blast finish and fish scales . Mine has flown all over the country with me for years before I retired.
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She’s not a target pistol, though it does pretty well at 7 yards and not awful at 10. Stick it in a strong side front pocket and it pretty much disappears. Did kill a coyote with it a few years back. ‘Yote got intested in our Lab (ignoring me coming up from behind) snarling and carrying on . Nailed it with two shots at about 15 yards
SimonRL
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^^^^^^^^^^100% this.
I was actually looking these when I was at the range last week and I was think “Ooohhh shiny, I want one, but I don’t know why.” $500 is a lot of beans for a novelty gun. Unlike my $99 Hi Point Compact.
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I'm old enough to remember when the seecamp was worth more than it's weight in silver (maybe still is) and there was a waiting list to get one. Someone once said we talk and write about our 1911's and carry J frames and Seecamps. There were no P32/380, LCP or the like. Most small 32/380 were "ring of fire" guns like Raven, Davis, etc. or the size of a PPK. As someone stated earlier, the seecamp was designed around Win. Silvertips. The NAA guardian is bigger and heaver but not as finicky. When I finally got to the age that I didn't always want to haul around even a J Frame all the time (read lazy) NAA had become its own company and I went with the mini revolver. Would still love to have a seecamp but finding 32 acp out in the wilds of offline is like finding hens teeth around here, so alas it would still be a hard pass.
Here she is when gussied up. Then I always wanted a mini when Dick Casull was making them.
Carried a Beretta .25, Model 20 for years as a secondary backup. Very accurate at the 7 yard line. Very pocketable. Only been in one gunfight, while on duty and that was with a 5904. Feel that putting a .25 slug into the cranial cavity of an AH will slow him down. That is average thug. Someone hyped up, all I want is for the bullets to slow him down until it is knife time.
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Trained a woman (SA victim) for her LTC, and ran into her years later, asked what she was carrying and she said it was an NAA mini revolver loaded with 22WMR snake shot (Did you learn NOTHING from my class?!?!) She said she didn't want to kill the next guy that put hands on her. She wanted him alive so he could feel the surgeons removing hundreds of pepper-granule-sized shot out of his nether regions, and will think about her every time he realizes he will never pitch another tent again.
I was conflicted; half proud of who I trained and half mortified by the monster I helped create.
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Do you say Leh-zhur or Lee-zhur. I think Leh-zhur sounds more menacing. It does when I’m wearing my dinner jacket and my stainless PPK.
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Depends on the accent which way sounds more ominous.
Having used a .22 mag NAA here on the farm years ago for snake medicine I can absolutely state that I would never count on snake shot for anything other than a small snake at VERY close range. I patterned mine after watching a 3’ copperhead crawl away after being shot at about 8 feet. (First round was shot, remaining 4 were regular .22 mag) . Pattern at anything beyond point blank is huge with gaping holes. Also at 10 ft it won’t penetrate luan plywood (1/8”). Sorry guys, .22 snake shot is a very poor choice for anything bigger than a field mouse. I know use a model 60 .357 shot or a model 69 .44 shot.
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At 7 feet, shoot a 6inch ShootnSee target and imagine that is your face. Eyelids are not near as tough as plywood.
No but eyeglasses sure are. It would hurt, but it darn sure wouldn’t stop anyone that intended harm, and I wouldn’t count on getting hits it the eyes. And, even worse, if you DO happen to blind them, you win the fight but lose the war because the jury will hang you for blinding a poor thug just doing his job
. It’s your choice of course. Me, I’ll use something with a lot more beans. I remember reading Jeff Cooper talking about shooting with a .25. His advice “don’t ever shoot someone with a. .25, cause if you do they might notice. And if they notice, they may get mad, and if they get mad they just might hurt you”. An exaggeration for sure, but still, in any defensive use, your rationale for shooting is to stop the aggressor right NOW. I wouldn’t trust .22. Mag snake shot to deter a 20 lb dog intent on biting me.
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snake shot no standard 22WMR is another ball game. then for snake i prefer 12G 7&1/2 for little ones and #5s for bigger ones. then if i'm on a mt. path with a green garden snake behind me and a bear if front, well bear makes great sausage.No but eyeglasses sure are. It would hurt, but it darn sure wouldn’t stop anyone that intended harm, and I wouldn’t count on getting hits it the eyes. And, even worse, if you DO happen to blind them, you win the fight but lose the war because the jury will hang you for blinding a poor thug just doing his job