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Ford breaks record on number of recalls for 2025

At least give them give them some credit for not burying everything.

Quite different than when Toyota and Lexus were trying to bury their killer sudden-acceleration issue.

We got a recall on our truck for an intermittant rear-view camera. Damn thing was undrive-able. Then a piece of underbody insulation had to be inspected. I can't believe I got away alive...
 
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No recalls on mine.
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Mine either:
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last2brake said:
At least give them give them some credit for not burying everything.

Quite different than when Toyota and Lexus were trying to bury their killer sudden-acceleration issue.

We got a recall on our truck for an intermittant rear-view camera. Damn thing was undrive-able. Then a piece of underbody insulation had to be inspected. I can't believe I got away alive...
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to this day, i still do not believe in that "sudden acceleration" BS...

i have seen way too many videos of old people stepping on the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal

that to me, is the ONLY "sudden acceleration", story i will buy.....


or how about the dealerships constantly checking to make sure my wife or i (and ALL cars entering the dealership) did not have a carpet on top of, the carpet in the car, get stuck under the gas pedal..

why did they start checking for "double carpeting"..??

cuz they never really could explain "sudden acceleration"



The real reasons for sudden acceleration in Toyotas involved a combination of physical issues, primarily floor mats trapping the accelerator pedal and sticky accelerator pedals, leading to recalls and settlements, though debate continued over potential electronic causes. The 2010-2011 NHTSA-NASA study found no electronic cause, attributing incidents to mechanical failures, while some experts argued software flaws in the drive-by-wire system (ETCS) could also be involved.
Key Factors Identified:
  • Floor Mat Interference: The most publicized cause was ill-fitting or unsecured floor mats sliding forward and pinning the accelerator pedal down.
  • Sticky Accelerator Pedals: Mechanical issues with the pedal assembly itself could cause it to get stuck.
  • Electronic Throttle Control (ETCS): While the NHTSA study found no electronic fault, some experts and a jury suggested potential software vulnerabilities in the electronic system (drive-by-wire) could, in theory, contribute, though this remained contentious.
Toyota's Response & Findings:
  • Toyota recalled millions of vehicles to address floor mats and pedal issues.
  • The Department of Transportation and NASA concluded no electronic flaw was responsible for the widespread incidents, focusing on the mechanical aspects.
  • Despite this, Toyota paid significant fines for misleading the public about the issue.
In essence, while major recalls focused on physical pedals and mats, the controversy highlighted the complex interplay between mechanical parts, software, and driver perception in unintended acceleration events
 
Old_Me said:
to this day, i still do not believe in that "sudden acceleration" BS...

i have seen way too many videos of old people stepping on the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal

that to me, is the ONLY "sudden acceleration", story i will buy.....


or how about the dealerships constantly checking to make sure my wife or i (and ALL cars entering the dealership) did not have a carpet on top of, the carpet in the car, get stuck under the gas pedal..

why did they start checking for "double carpeting"..??

cuz they never really could explain "sudden acceleration"



The real reasons for sudden acceleration in Toyotas involved a combination of physical issues, primarily floor mats trapping the accelerator pedal and sticky accelerator pedals, leading to recalls and settlements, though debate continued over potential electronic causes. The 2010-2011 NHTSA-NASA study found no electronic cause, attributing incidents to mechanical failures, while some experts argued software flaws in the drive-by-wire system (ETCS) could also be involved.
Key Factors Identified:
  • Floor Mat Interference: The most publicized cause was ill-fitting or unsecured floor mats sliding forward and pinning the accelerator pedal down.
  • Sticky Accelerator Pedals: Mechanical issues with the pedal assembly itself could cause it to get stuck.
  • Electronic Throttle Control (ETCS): While the NHTSA study found no electronic fault, some experts and a jury suggested potential software vulnerabilities in the electronic system (drive-by-wire) could, in theory, contribute, though this remained contentious.
Toyota's Response & Findings:
  • Toyota recalled millions of vehicles to address floor mats and pedal issues.
  • The Department of Transportation and NASA concluded no electronic flaw was responsible for the widespread incidents, focusing on the mechanical aspects.
  • Despite this, Toyota paid significant fines for misleading the public about the issue
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One of toyota's scams is their belief that they own the data in the car, and not the owner of the car.

And they've been very territorial about NOT letting the owner of the car or anyone else, access the data in the car that they bought without pulling teeth.

They've been back-handed and full of dishonesty in their business dealings, and they've been caught blatantly and deliberately cheating in EVERY racing series at a highly corrupt level, especially when competing against Honda, and even kicked out a series of at the FIA level. They've even cheated when they were the only engine manufacturer in a series, just to give certain favored drivers an advantage, and it was supposed to be a spec-engine series.

And they hide behind the myth that they're "honorable businessmen"

Gotta give them credit. They get away with it. Coincidentally, they always spend more money sponsoring a series than anyone. Sanctioning bodies are afraid to lose their sponsorships...

I know enough about their workings to not trust them, but they sure have alot of convincing commercials.
 
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Old_Me said:
to this day, i still do not believe in that "sudden acceleration" BS...

i have seen way too many videos of old people stepping on the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal

that to me, is the ONLY "sudden acceleration", story i will buy.....


or how about the dealerships constantly checking to make sure my wife or i (and ALL cars entering the dealership) did not have a carpet on top of, the carpet in the car, get stuck under the gas pedal..

why did they start checking for "double carpeting"..??

cuz they never really could explain "sudden acceleration"



The real reasons for sudden acceleration in Toyotas involved a combination of physical issues, primarily floor mats trapping the accelerator pedal and sticky accelerator pedals, leading to recalls and settlements, though debate continued over potential electronic causes. The 2010-2011 NHTSA-NASA study found no electronic cause, attributing incidents to mechanical failures, while some experts argued software flaws in the drive-by-wire system (ETCS) could also be involved.
Key Factors Identified:
  • Floor Mat Interference: The most publicized cause was ill-fitting or unsecured floor mats sliding forward and pinning the accelerator pedal down.
  • Sticky Accelerator Pedals: Mechanical issues with the pedal assembly itself could cause it to get stuck.
  • Electronic Throttle Control (ETCS): While the NHTSA study found no electronic fault, some experts and a jury suggested potential software vulnerabilities in the electronic system (drive-by-wire) could, in theory, contribute, though this remained contentious.
Toyota's Response & Findings:
  • Toyota recalled millions of vehicles to address floor mats and pedal issues.
  • The Department of Transportation and NASA concluded no electronic flaw was responsible for the widespread incidents, focusing on the mechanical aspects.
  • Despite this, Toyota paid significant fines for misleading the public about the issue.
In essence, while major recalls focused on physical pedals and mats, the controversy highlighted the complex interplay between mechanical parts, software, and driver perception in unintended acceleration events
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Many many years ago Audi had complaints of “unintended acceleration” with several cases of folks driving through their garage😳. Terrible dangerous thing. Solution? An interlock which required the brake pedal to be engaged BEFORE shifting the auto trans into gear😏. Amazing how that one change solved the problem…seems that having one’s foot on the accelerator when putting an automatic in gear will actually cause a car to move🙄.
 
Given the quality of the education system under the Department Of Education it will only get worse and worse. I'm a member of the Blackjack club, 21 Honda. None on mine.
 
I've owned 3 Fords in my lifetime.

1) 1998 F-250 SuperCab 4X4. I swear to god that thing came off the assembly line at 4:59 PM on a Friday afternoon before a 3 day weekend on alternate whiz quiz week. Everything that could've gone wrong with that rolling total did - twice! I swore I would NEVER own a Ford ever again.
2) 2009 Explorer Sport Trac 4X4 Limited. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned. I had some suspension work done on it to make it perfect. The comfort and features left nothing to desire. I until this day regret selling that thing especially when I discovered Ford ceased production when I decided to buy another one years later.
3) 2018 F-250 4X4 Crew Cab Super Duty King Ranch - The unbelievable B&O sound system itself made the truck worth the price tag. Feature rich. Absolute comfort and power. That diesel engine ran like a raped ape. I loved that truck!
 
I’ve had A number of Fords for 65 years. Only a few recalls. Lately I’ve seen so many recalls on the newer vehicles, I’m starting to have doubts. I have nothing newer than 2018 and don’t plan to buy anything soon. When and if the time comes I will definitely do some research. I hate to not have a vehicle that has a U.S. base but a lot of Foreign based are built here. I keep my daily driver at the very least 10 years. My 2018 Edge is great and not going anywhere soon. My 2014 150 Tremor and 1964 Comet are stored in the bad weather. With the little good weather they see I’ll probably keep them until I can’t drive anymore.
 
Tremor said:
.My 2014 150 Tremor and 1964 Comet are stored in the bad weather. With the little good weather they see I’ll probably keep them until I can’t drive anymore.
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2014 F150 Tremor...I thought that was a typo 'til I google'd it.

We have two Tremors. 2020 F250 and a 2025 F150 Tremor.

I'm kind of a FoMoCo dinosaur. Six cars/trucks with V8 and at least rear-wheel-drive and full-frames (well, except the Shelby). I've had more recalls on one motorcycle than I have on all of my Fords. I've had a Honda that had as many recalls as ANY of my Fords (so far.....I wouldn't be surprised if I get another on the Superduty.)

I'm not going to jinx my good fortune, so I'll just say I don't have problems with them as I did with my Mercedes or Hondas. So I'm not nearly as freaked out about the pending recall to INSPECT a piece of underbody insulation trim that MIGHT flap in the wind ....

I would never suggest that the NHTSA (?) might be a government agency that wants to grow its budget by generating itself, because I have not looked into it at all. I've thought about it, but can't suggest it. I trust our government SO much.
 
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last2brake said:
2014 F150 Tremor...I thought that was a typo 'til I google'd it.

We have two Tremors. 2020 F250 and a 2025 F150 Tremor.

I'm kind of a FoMoCo dinosaur. Six cars/trucks with V8 and at least rear-wheel-drive and full-frames (well, except the Shelby). I've had more recalls on one motorcycle than I have on all of my Fords. I've had a Honda that had as many recalls as ANY of my Fords (so far.....I wouldn't be surprised if I get another on the Superduty.)

I'm not going to jinx my good fortune, so I'll just say I don't have problems with them as I did with my Mercedes or Hondas. So I'm not nearly as freaked out about the pending recall to INSPECT a piece of underbody insulation trim that MIGHT flap in the wind ....

I would never suggest that the NHTSB (?) might be a government agency that wants to grow its budget by generating itself, because I have not looked into it at all. I've thought about it, but can't suggest it. I trust our government SO much.
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Not a lot of people are familiar with the 2014 Tremor. When I found out there was only 2600 of these made short bed short cab four-wheel-drive 365 hp. I decided it would never see snow or salt. I bought it from my nephew in Florida when it was 10 months old. Brought it home to Ohio. It only has a little over 12,000 miles possibly 13,000 I can’t remember. It’s never been in the snow and actually never been in the rain in Ohio. I keep it stored most of the time driving it occasionally in the nice weather.
 
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